Game of Thrones: Which claimant do you support?

[garbon]

Not my fault you're totally fucking unschooled in gender studies, Marty.

Well to be fair I think he's just using lazy shorthand to state that he feels some sort of affinity with men from different eras who fucked other men...even if there is no evidence that they did so. (And then the same for fictional ones too.)

[Queequeg]

Not my fault you're totally fucking unschooled in gender studies, Marty.

Is that a compliment or an insult?

Knowing some of the basics of the history of sexual identity when criticizing someone on the topic would seem important. 

[Josquius]

[spoiler]aegon is obviously false....though Martin does like going against the obvious so who knows. My prediction is everyone who matters knows he  is fake yet many reckon it might be  for the good of the realm to pretend and marry him to dani or stannis' kid[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Um who even knows about him besides Varys and Tyrion?  I mean unless you think they are the only two people who matter and you may have a point there.

And he is not obviously false at all.  Alot of people WANT him to be false and he may yet be.  But GRRM hinted he was still alive for quite awhile.  Besides Varys says he is Aegon at the end of ADWD and why would he lie to a dying man?[/spoiler]

Others will find out I mean after he starts making waves.

[crazy canuck]

To the OP, A pox on all their houses.  Hopefully leaders from the past who we thought were dead arent.  Oh wait.

[Valmy]

To the OP, A pox on all their houses.  Hopefully leaders from the past who we thought were dead arent.  Oh wait.

Who are you talking about?  None of the dead former leaders are dead-but-not-dead.  Dead-but-not-deadness generally happens to their heirs 

[Martinus]

Not my fault you're totally fucking unschooled in gender studies, Marty.

Well to be fair I think he's just using lazy shorthand to state that he feels some sort of affinity with men from different eras who fucked other men...even if there is no evidence that they did so. (And then the same for fictional ones too.)

Yeah, it's retarded on Queequeg's part to take objection to that statement. It is quite obvious, and we have been there hundreds of times, that the so-called gay identity is a modern construct, but is used as a shorthand these days for homosexuality or homosexual behaviour. 

That's why I call such behaviour autistic - it's an inability to read the intended meaning from context, and instead sticking to literal meaning of each and every word, even if the intention is pretty obvious.

[Valmy]

That's why I call such behaviour autistic - it's an inability to read the intended meaning from context, and instead sticking to literal meaning of each and every word, even if the intention is pretty obvious.

Oh sure.  Insult me because you couldn't come up with anything

[Eddie Teach]

Well to be fair I think he's just using lazy shorthand to state that he feels some sort of affinity with men from different eras who fucked other men...even if there is no evidence that they did so. (And then the same for fictional ones too.)

ZOMG RENLY AND LORAS WEREN'T GAY IN THE BOOKS

[Queequeg]

Yeah, it's retarded on Queequeg's part to take objection to that statement. It is quite obvious, and we have been there hundreds of times, that the so-called gay identity is a modern construct, but is used as a shorthand these days for homosexuality or homosexual behaviour. 

That's why I call such behaviour autistic - it's an inability to read the intended meaning from context, and instead sticking to literal meaning of each and every word, even if the intention is pretty obvious.

Not really.  I just have such a low opinion of your ability to reasonably discuss human sexuality and it's history that I assumed that you were either ignorant or careless, as you've previously demonstrated both in equal measure.  Though, obviously, both ignorance and carelessness are completely overshadowed by your capacity to be a hyperbolic asshole. 

[Neil]

Poor Martinus.  Trying to make your own stupidity and laziness into somebody else's problem is typical of his kind of trash.

[garbon]

Not really.  I just have such a low opinion of your ability to reasonably discuss human sexuality and it's history that I assumed that you were either ignorant or careless, as you've previously demonstrated both in equal measure.  Though, obviously, both ignorance and carelessness are completely overshadowed by your capacity to be a hyperbolic asshole. 

I don't want to defend him but I found it a bit tiresome that you were going to try and lecture him on a history of sexuality. It was pretty obvious what he meant even those he did phrase it carelessly.

[viper37]

Well to be fair I think he's just using lazy shorthand to state that he feels some sort of affinity with men from different eras who fucked other men...even if there is no evidence that they did so. (And then the same for fictional ones too.)

ZOMG RENLY AND LORAS WEREN'T GAY IN THE BOOKS

they were, it's pretty obvious.

[The Minsky Moment]

Yeah, it's retarded on Queequeg's part to take objection to that statement. It is quite obvious, and we have been there hundreds of times, that the so-called gay identity is a modern construct, but is used as a shorthand these days for homosexuality or homosexual behaviour. 

That's why I call such behaviour autistic - it's an inability to read the intended meaning from context, and instead sticking to literal meaning of each and every word, even if the intention is pretty obvious.

you don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "autistic" either . . .

[Sheilbh]

I don't find it too odd to say she's a bit of Anne Boleyn-ish. Yeah the Boleyns were new money but they married into the Howards who were always pushing her marriage. It's a bit like Littlefinger seeming a little bit like Thomas Cromwell. They may not be inspirations like the War of the Roses, but there's definite resemblances.

Tom Holland wrote a piece about this sort of thing for the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2013/mar/24/game-of-thrones-realistic-history

[Queequeg]

Yeah.  I turned to Mantell when I was done with Dance of Dragons.  Sadly, Wolf Hall took me three times as long as the far larger Dance.