Putin: Winter War was fought to correct errors in border with Finland

[Valmy]

There were many in this country who thought we should ally with Hitler.  I suspect there still are some.

So?  Many in this country wanted a communist revolution as well.  And I also suspect there are still some

[Valmy]

Why support the Finns when it turns out they were all secretly Jew-hating Nazi sympathizers, and monsters to a man?  Sure, no one knew it yet in 1939, they were just defending themselves.  But perhaps Stalin had an inkling of their allegiance to true evil.

I guess I missed the part in WWII where everybody supported the Finns.

[Razgovory]

There were many in this country who thought we should ally with Hitler.  I suspect there still are some.

So?  Many in this country wanted a communist revolution as well.  And I also suspect there are still some

I was explaining to Barrister the context of Derspeiss's statement.

[Ideologue]

Why support the Finns when it turns out they were all secretly Jew-hating Nazi sympathizers, and monsters to a man?  Sure, no one knew it yet in 1939, they were just defending themselves.  But perhaps Stalin had an inkling of their allegiance to true evil.

I guess I missed the part in WWII where everybody supported the Finns.

Iirc Churchill contemplated a declaration of war on the USSR.  Not totally unreasonable, given that the Nazis and Sovs were essentially acting as co-belligerents, if not allies, against the small peoples f Eastern Europe.  But also not a very smooth move.

Anyway, I do overstate my case, mainly because I wanted to say "Fuck Finland," because the Continuation War accomplished exactly jack and shit, other than diverting Soviet resources and prolonging the war on the Eastern Front slightly.  So, yeah, fuck Finland.

This is distinct entirely from my previous arguments that we (the U.S., with our allies) should have readied ourselves and attacked the USSR in a war of liberation in 1948 or even earlier.  The key difference: the Nazis were all gone and we could have actually won.

[Ed Anger]

Churchill strikes me as a dullard sometimes. Declare war on the sovs to support mouthsugars? Invade Sicily in '40? What a maroon.

[derspiess]

There were many in this country who thought we should ally with Hitler.  I suspect there still are some.

So?  Many in this country wanted a communist revolution as well.  And I also suspect there are still some

I was explaining to Barrister the context of Derspeiss's statement.

[Razgovory]

You have a problem?

[jimmy olsen]

Why support the Finns when it turns out they were all secretly Jew-hating Nazi sympathizers, and monsters to a man?  Sure, no one knew it yet in 1939, they were just defending themselves.  But perhaps Stalin had an inkling of their allegiance to true evil.

I guess I missed the part in WWII where everybody supported the Finns.

Britain and France nearly declared war on the USSR over it and drew up plans for bombing raids. That would have been rad. 

[Ideologue]

Why support the Finns when it turns out they were all secretly Jew-hating Nazi sympathizers, and monsters to a man?  Sure, no one knew it yet in 1939, they were just defending themselves.  But perhaps Stalin had an inkling of their allegiance to true evil.

I guess I missed the part in WWII where everybody supported the Finns.

Britain and France nearly declared war on the USSR over it and drew up plans for bombing raids. That would have been rad. 

Britain losing World War II?  YEAH, WAY RADICAL AND EVEN TUBULAR

[Valmy]

Britain and France nearly declared war on the USSR over it and drew up plans for bombing raids. That would have been rad. 

Yeah and it took them so long the war was over before they were even on step 1 to get there.  Their heart was not in it.  I was talking about actual support not kinda thinking it would be nice to do something.

[Valmy]

Iirc Churchill contemplated a declaration of war on the USSR.

Well he did not even become PM until May of 1940 so...

[dps]

Britain and France nearly declared war on the USSR over it and drew up plans for bombing raids. That would have been rad. 

Yeah and it took them so long the war was over before they were even on step 1 to get there.  Their heart was not in it.  I was talking about actual support not kinda thinking it would be nice to do something.

From what I can gather, the French were pretty serious about wanting to bomb Baku from bases in Syria and Iraq.  The British apparantly weren't all that enthusiastic about it, but were willing to go along with the French at least as far as planning such raids was concerned. 

The planning seemed to overlook the fact that they'd have to overfly Turkey and possibly Iran, or just assumed that those countries would be OK with their airspace being violated.

[Ideologue]

Iirc Churchill contemplated a declaration of war on the USSR.

Well he did not even become PM until May of 1940 so...

Or maybe it was Chamberlain.  Or maybe it didn't happen at all.  I said "iirc."

[Razgovory]

Why support the Finns when it turns out they were all secretly Jew-hating Nazi sympathizers, and monsters to a man?  Sure, no one knew it yet in 1939, they were just defending themselves.  But perhaps Stalin had an inkling of their allegiance to true evil.

I guess I missed the part in WWII where everybody supported the Finns.

Britain and France nearly declared war on the USSR over it and drew up plans for bombing raids. That would have been rad. 

Britain losing World War II?  YEAH, WAY RADICAL AND EVEN TUBULAR

Timmay really does like his alt-history.

[jimmy olsen]

Why support the Finns when it turns out they were all secretly Jew-hating Nazi sympathizers, and monsters to a man?  Sure, no one knew it yet in 1939, they were just defending themselves.  But perhaps Stalin had an inkling of their allegiance to true evil.

I guess I missed the part in WWII where everybody supported the Finns.

Britain and France nearly declared war on the USSR over it and drew up plans for bombing raids. That would have been rad. 

Britain losing World War II?  YEAH, WAY RADICAL AND EVEN TUBULAR

US would have got involved quicker.