Putin: Winter War was fought to correct errors in border with Finland

Started by Syt, March 15, 2013, 05:00:52 AM

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Malthus

#30
March 15, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 15, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 15, 2013, 09:55:55 AM
Naw, Italian performance in WW1 has it beat.  :D

No way.  Attacking a tiny inpoverished country and getting driven back and whipped is entirely different from being unable to break a Great Power, even one in as desperate straights as Austria-Hungary.

Hey, bad as Mussolini was, even he didn't actively decimate his own troops.  :D
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Ed Anger

#31
March 15, 2013, 10:06:16 AM
The Republican Guard is elite.
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Valmy

#32
March 15, 2013, 10:13:53 AM
Quote from: Malthus on March 15, 2013, 10:05:50 AM
Hey, bad as Mussolini was, even he didn't actively decimate his own troops.  :D

It was necessary to enforce discipline! :cadorna:
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Syt

#33
March 15, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
Besides, the Alpine front of WW1 as one of the harshest environments to fight in. Props to both sides for holding out as long as they did.
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Drakken

#34
March 15, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
The Falklands War on the Argentinian side would go up there as well.

The Larch

#35
March 15, 2013, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 15, 2013, 08:13:01 AM
Quote from: Viking on March 15, 2013, 08:08:35 AM
Polish Wheel of Fortune must be really fun.

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Malthus

#36
March 15, 2013, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: Drakken on March 15, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
The Falklands War on the Argentinian side would go up there as well.

Another would be the Egyptian campaign in the Sinai in 1967.
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Barrister

#37
March 15, 2013, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 15, 2013, 09:20:30 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 15, 2013, 09:10:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 15, 2013, 09:09:40 AM
Was the Soviet invasion of Finland the most inept military campaign of the 20th century? If not, what was?

The Italian invasion of Greece.
I should have made an Italian exemption. <_<

I was going to say Italian invasion of Ethiopia.
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Viking

#38
March 15, 2013, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 15, 2013, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: Drakken on March 15, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
The Falklands War on the Argentinian side would go up there as well.

Another would be the Egyptian campaign in the Sinai in 1967.

Where the battle plan was literally "run away!"
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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DGuller

#39
March 15, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
I think Winter War is the best example, because it was a superpower getting cut to ribbons by villagers on skis of a much smaller country.

11B4V

#40
March 15, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 15, 2013, 01:45:37 PM
I think Winter War is the best example, because it was a superpower getting cut to ribbons by villagers on skis of a much smaller country.

What the Finns did was fantastic

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#41
March 15, 2013, 02:22:01 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 15, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
Besides, the Alpine front of WW1 as one of the harshest environments to fight in. Props to both sides for holding out as long as they did.

Well it's hard for them to both lose.

Another inept campaign:  Russian naval campaign against Japan in 1905.
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The Brain

#42
March 15, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
Finns kick ass. :dolljoints:
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Iormlund

#43
March 15, 2013, 04:09:20 PM
The campaign of Annual, or 'how to lose your entire army to a bunch of rebels'.

The Russo-Japanese war.

Tonitrus

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March 15, 2013, 04:58:34 PM Last Edit: March 15, 2013, 05:00:39 PM by Tonitrus
Quote from: Solmyr on March 15, 2013, 05:49:59 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on March 15, 2013, 05:34:09 AM
Definitely had to look at the original Russian for this one, just for fun.

Do you have a link?

Nothing like a transcript, but a Russian news article with more of his quotes in the original tongue.

http://ria.ru/society/20130314/927341148.html

For the peanut gallery, I think even when copy/pasted into Google translate's sometimes pigeon english, you can see that it seems more like scholarly discussion rather than nationalist/patriotic rhetoric.
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