"Marriage Equality Is a Conservative Cause"

[derspiess]

He never had a chance to resonate with anyone if he had no money.

He arguably raised little money because he was such a lousy candidate that wasn't liked very much by the GOP base. 

[derspiess]

Along with the fact that he didn't resonate with the GOP base.

Isn't the issue that the GOP base is insufficient?

To what?  Win the primary? 

[sbr]

Along with the fact that he didn't resonate with the GOP base.

Isn't the issue that the GOP base is insufficient?

Are you using 'insufficient' as a synonym for 'bat-shit-crazy'?

[Maximus]

To what?  Win the primary? 

No, the election.

Specifically that the party needs to appeal to a wider base in order to remain relevant.

[Maximus]

Are you using 'insufficient' as a synonym for 'bat-shit-crazy'?

Not a synonym, but they may both be effects of the same cause.

[Eddie Teach]

Problem is they've got too many old people who don't "get it" that the party needs to shift on gay marriage and immigration to stay relevant.

[MadImmortalMan]

Problem is they've got too many old people who don't "get it" that the party needs to shift on gay marriage and immigration to stay relevant.

Yes. Though I question even how successful that will be (the subtext being courting latino voters). Of the Mexican parties, PRI and PRD are both in the International and that's 60% of the popular support there. I don't think appealing to immigration issues while staying against abortion and stuff is enough of a winning formula with hispanics, frankly.

[Admiral Yi]

Problem is they've got too many old people who don't "get it" that the party needs to shift on gay marriage and immigration to stay relevant.

Disagree on the 2nd. 

Mainly because I don't buy into the narrative that the GOP position on immigration is driven by nativism and xenophobia.  Any more than I buy into the counternarrative that the Democratic position is driven by lust for more Democratic voters.

[CountDeMoney]

I simply do not understand how Huntsman was never a serious candidate, when teakazoids like Gingrich were.

He colluded with That Black Guy.  And yes, it's actually that simple of an explanation.

[garbon]

I simply do not understand how Huntsman was never a serious candidate, when teakazoids like Gingrich were.

He colluded with That Black Guy.  And yes, it's actually that simple of an explanation.

You always make everything about race.

[fhdz]

I'd have voted Huntsman. Good foreign policy chops, level-headed, refuses to maintain ignorant positions on evolution and climate change just to get elected.

He's absolutely right about marriage equality, too.

Oh well.

[CountDeMoney]

He never had a chance to resonate with anyone if he had no money.

Didn't stop most of the other candidates, many of whom spent zilch in the early primaries.  So you don't need money to resonate with the base, when batshit stupid will do.

[CountDeMoney]

I simply do not understand how Huntsman was never a serious candidate, when teakazoids like Gingrich were.

He colluded with That Black Guy.  And yes, it's actually that simple of an explanation.

You always make everything about race.

So do Republicans.  So we're even.

[fhdz]

He arguably raised little money because he was such a lousy candidate that wasn't liked very much by the GOP base.

The way the GOP base has been going the last 20 years or so, I'd be honored to be considered a "lousy", "unlikeable" candidate.

[Eddie Teach]

Problem is they've got too many old people who don't "get it" that the party needs to shift on gay marriage and immigration to stay relevant.

Yes. Though I question even how successful that will be (the subtext being courting latino voters). Of the Mexican parties, PRI and PRD are both in the International and that's 60% of the popular support there. I don't think appealing to immigration issues while staying against abortion and stuff is enough of a winning formula with hispanics, frankly.

They don't need a majority of hispanics. They do need to be competitive and not write them off as a lost cause like blacks. And I don't think Mexicans are significantly more in favor of abortion than white Americans are.