Will a Horrific Bus Gang-Rape in Delhi Finally Change India's Culture of Rape?

[Malthus]

Yeah, I'm kind of done with this thread. Can't do the jokes about rape.

Wait we are condemning the entire thread just because Malthus is a degenerate?

Hey, Yi shares my degeneracy. Let's be fair here. 

[Admiral Yi]

That's not fair.  I was pointing out how retarded the coppers are in India.

[garbon]

Seeds, stop being a bitch?

Will you two just get a room, already? 

I believe they already did.  Hence, the awkwardness between them.

Why would that be awkward?

[derspiess]

Why would that be awkward?

Dunno, you tell me

[Syt]

Huh. Turns out it's partially the girl's fault because she didn't beg for mercy in the name of god.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9787029/Guru-claims-Indian-gang-rape-victim-could-have-avoided-tragedy.html

Guru claims Indian gang-rape victim could have avoided tragedy

An Indian spiritual guru has sparked a backlash after saying the 23-year-old student who died after being gang-raped could have averted the tragedy by begging for mercy.

Asharam, known to his followers as "Bapu" or father, told his devotees that blame for the assault on a moving bus in New Delhi on December 16 should not just rest with her attackers.

"This tragedy would not have happened if she had chanted God's name and fallen at the feet of the attackers. The error was not committed by just one side," he said in video footage which has been widely circulated on the internet.

The 71-year-old's remarks - the latest in a series of gaffes by public figures blaming women for India's rape epidemic - drew a chorus of condemnation.

Ravi Shankar Prasad, spokesman for the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), said the statement was "deeply disturbing and painful".

"For him to make the statement in relation to a crime which has shocked the conscience of the country is not only unfortunate but deeply regrettable," he told reporters.

The Hindu newspaper said it was "a disgrace when a man of religion stoops so low".

"Asharam deserves to be condemned in the strongest words," the daily added in an editorial.

The editorial also criticised politicians from the ruling Congress party as well as the BJP for their sexist commentary on the Delhi rape and the need for Indian women to stay home and make traditional choices.

"Their notions of... an ideal society appear rooted in the very prejudices that have engendered a culture of violence against women, the Delhi incident being its most recent and horrific manifestation," the newspaper said.

Abhijit Mukherjee, the son of India's president who is a Congress lawmaker, landed himself in hot water last month after comparing women who took part in protests over the gang-rape to patched up second-hand cars.

Five men have been charged with rape and murder in the December 16 attack on the young student. A sixth accused, who is 17, is to be tried in a separate court for juveniles.

[Malthus]

Huh. Turns out it's partially the girl's fault because she didn't beg for mercy in the name of god.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9787029/Guru-claims-Indian-gang-rape-victim-could-have-avoided-tragedy.html

Guru claims Indian gang-rape victim could have avoided tragedy

An Indian spiritual guru has sparked a backlash after saying the 23-year-old student who died after being gang-raped could have averted the tragedy by begging for mercy.

Asharam, known to his followers as "Bapu" or father, told his devotees that blame for the assault on a moving bus in New Delhi on December 16 should not just rest with her attackers.

"This tragedy would not have happened if she had chanted God's name and fallen at the feet of the attackers. The error was not committed by just one side," he said in video footage which has been widely circulated on the internet.

The 71-year-old's remarks - the latest in a series of gaffes by public figures blaming women for India's rape epidemic - drew a chorus of condemnation.

Ravi Shankar Prasad, spokesman for the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), said the statement was "deeply disturbing and painful".

"For him to make the statement in relation to a crime which has shocked the conscience of the country is not only unfortunate but deeply regrettable," he told reporters.

The Hindu newspaper said it was "a disgrace when a man of religion stoops so low".

"Asharam deserves to be condemned in the strongest words," the daily added in an editorial.

The editorial also criticised politicians from the ruling Congress party as well as the BJP for their sexist commentary on the Delhi rape and the need for Indian women to stay home and make traditional choices.

"Their notions of... an ideal society appear rooted in the very prejudices that have engendered a culture of violence against women, the Delhi incident being its most recent and horrific manifestation," the newspaper said.

Abhijit Mukherjee, the son of India's president who is a Congress lawmaker, landed himself in hot water last month after comparing women who took part in protests over the gang-rape to patched up second-hand cars.

Five men have been charged with rape and murder in the December 16 attack on the young student. A sixth accused, who is 17, is to be tried in a separate court for juveniles.

Woah. That's pretty harshly backwards. The reaction by pundits and politicians, seems to me, is more horrifying than the incident - after all, everywhere there exists psychopaths, but not everywhere are there public religious and political figures making excuses for them and blaming their victims.

[Phillip V]

Perhaps the guru has previously survived being gang-raped.

[Valmy]

Woah. That's pretty harshly backwards. The reaction by pundits and politicians, seems to me, is more horrifying than the incident - after all, everywhere there exists psychopaths, but not everywhere are there public religious and political figures making excuses for them and blaming their victims.

Yeah there are two things I can usually count on in the US when there is a high profile rape case (unless it involves children) from the usual clowns:

1. Anyone with allegations of rape are always guilty until proven innocent.

2. Rape jokes.

But at least here it is not prominent leaders making these sorts of statements, at least not publicly.

[Syt]

Seems that the guys pleaded not guilty. Their lawyers will aim to undermine the police evidence.

[Phillip V]

Maybe a 'Not Guilty' verdict will generate more powerful protests and change.

[Syt]

Maybe a 'Not Guilty' verdict will generate more powerful protests and change.

I think acquitting them would lead to worse riots than after the cops got acquitted for beating up Rodney King.

[Malthus]

Woah. That's pretty harshly backwards. The reaction by pundits and politicians, seems to me, is more horrifying than the incident - after all, everywhere there exists psychopaths, but not everywhere are there public religious and political figures making excuses for them and blaming their victims.

Yeah there are two things I can usually count on in the US when there is a high profile rape case (unless it involves children) from the usual clowns:

1. Anyone with allegations of rape are always guilty until proven innocent.

2. Rape jokes.

But at least here it is not prominent leaders making these sorts of statements, at least not publicly.

I'm not spoiling for a fight over this.

[Valmy]

I'm not spoiling for a fight over this.

Fight?  I thought I was just elaborating and agreeing with what you were saying.  That is why I said 'yeah' and not 'nope'. 

[Malthus]

I'm not spoiling for a fight over this.

Fight?  I thought I was just elaborating and agreeing with what you were saying.  That is why I said 'yeah' and not 'nope'. 

My mistake. I thought you were making a more pointed comment, following up on "degenerate".

[Valmy]

My mistake. I thought you were making a more pointed comment, following up on "degenerate".

Oh...no I had forgotten about that.  Just poking fun Malthus on the 'degenerate' thing.