Will a Horrific Bus Gang-Rape in Delhi Finally Change India's Culture of Rape?

Started by jimmy olsen, December 21, 2012, 01:12:03 AM

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jimmy olsen

I'm gonna say no, not in the short term anyways, a problem like this needs at the very least a decade to start to be decisively overcome.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/12/20/india_s_rape_problem_will_a_horrific_bus_gang_rape_in_delhi_finally_change.html
QuoteWill a Horrific Bus Gang-Rape in Delhi Finally Change India's Culture of Rape?

By Jen Swanson
Posted Thursday, Dec. 20, 2012, at 1:12 PM ET

India may be the world's largest democracy, but it's also one of the most dangerous countries for women.

As if the Haryana rape spree earlier this year, and the religious and political leadership's indifference to it, weren't awful enough, this week brought news of a horrific gang-rape of a 23-year-old med student on a moving Delhi bus, knocking India's entrenched blame-the-victim mentality off its footing. How to demonize a girl who dared watch a film with a male friend before boarding a private bus in a relatively affluent neighborhood around 9 p.m., before most Indians even sit down for dinner? What did she do to invite the next 90-minutes of torture, as six drunk men on board (including the driver, who passed the wheel to a friend so as not to miss his shot) raped her in turn before beating her so badly with an iron rod that medical staff described the site of her naked body, which had been dumped with her friend's alongside the highway, as horrifying? Could this possibly mean that India's pervasive rape culture can't be blamed on women after all?

On Wednesday, angry protests broke out around Delhi, overwhelming police as irate crowds called for police accountability, better protection and even some for public castration. Meanwhile, parliamentarians called for a proper investigation and stricter penalties for law-breakers; some even proposed the death penalty, a far cry from the usual mild finger-wagging. Following suit, the Delhi High Court agreed that the five men apprehended so far should be tried in the fast-track courts, thus saving this case from joining the thousands of other rape cases held up in a system so backlogged that lawsuits often linger 10 to 15 years before going to trial.

Hundreds gathered outside of India Gate to stage a candlelight vigil on Wednesday evening, but not everyone is convinced that the latest attack will change anything. "People are appalled. And they want instant justice. Chemical castration. Public hanging. Stoned to death. Anything will do. But what has happened is sheer reflection of the way India has evolved. Women being raped day in and day out is a story of Indian evolution," writes journalist Vivek Kaul. Kaul is describing a country where, almost exactly two years ago, a 13-year old girl was gang-raped by four boys. After they left her by the side of the road to die, she crawled into a brick kiln, where she was found and raped by two other men. Later, she was found and raped by a rickshaw driver, only to be abducted and raped for another nine days by a truck driver and his accomplice. The sad fact that still more gang-rapes have been reported since Sunday's bus attack seems to further confirm that Indian women will continue to stock up on pepper spray and suffer this undeserved short straw in life. India, according to Kaul, is a lost cause.

The thousands of protesters who have taken to the streets this week suggest not everyone is willing to just give up. Similarly, the latest news coming out of New Delhi that the accused have been charged with, among other crimes, kidnapping, rape, and attempted murder, could signal that violence towards women won't be tolerated as it has been in the past. Meanwhile, the young victim remains in critical condition after suffering five surgeries and such massive internal injury that her intestines had to be removed.
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Phillip V

Long-term, women need more economic and legislative power. Boys need to be parented and educated to be ethical men.

Short-term, women need to escalate their protests and perhaps start killing men.

garbon

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I actually have to agree with grabon for the first and last time.   :(
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I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Martinus


Martinus

Anyway, isn't the expression "India's culture of rape" somewhat racist?

I remember Strix being torn a new one here for suggesting Mexicans have a culture of rape, but if some bitch uses exactly the same term in an article on Slate, it's alright all of sudden?

Martinus

Quote from: Phillip V on December 21, 2012, 01:24:45 AM
Long-term, women need more economic and legislative power.

Yeah. I mean it's not like any woman has ever managed to raise to any position of power in India.

Phillip V

Quote from: Martinus on December 21, 2012, 02:33:34 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 21, 2012, 01:24:45 AM
Long-term, women need more economic and legislative power.

Yeah. I mean it's not like any woman has ever managed to raise to any position of power in India.

More.

Martinus

They had a female prime minister. It's like with Obama ending racism against blacks. :P

Richard Hakluyt

Her date sounds like a 1950s experience. When she got on the bus it was back to the middle ages. Her date should have run her home or she should have got a taxi.

I see it as a class issue. The upper echelons of Indian society are often well-educated and delightful people, many of the lower orders live at a level of ignorance and squalor we can barely comprehend.

Martinus

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on December 21, 2012, 02:48:39 AM
Her date sounds like a 1950s experience. When she got on the bus it was back to the middle ages. Her date should have run her home or she should have got a taxi.

I see it as a class issue. The upper echelons of Indian society are often well-educated and delightful people, many of the lower orders live at a level of ignorance and squalor we can barely comprehend.

Pretty much, with one caveat - the "well-educated and delightful people" are the ones keeping the inhuman caste system in place. I'm sure many slave owners were quite charming, too.