14-year old Pakistani girl activist shot by Taliban

Started by merithyn, October 09, 2012, 03:21:05 PM

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Martinus

I think being rejected by mainstream religions (like homosexuals are, for example) is a great gift, since it helps one reject the whole hocus pocus and embrace rational thought. It boggles my mind when people reject that gift and try looking for another set of idiotic beliefs just so they can be "spiritual-while-sucking-dick".

The Brain

Why would anyone need help to say no to retardism? Oh right, they're fags.
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Martinus

Quote from: The Brain on October 13, 2012, 02:44:21 AM
Why would anyone need help to say no to retardism? Oh right, they're fags.

Not more retarded than heteros. Just look at the number of Langushites who engage in some form of religious activity.

garbon

What's wrong with spirituality while sucking dick? Much better than mmm, this dick cheese gross but so appealing.
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Valmy

Wait so you are going to embrace rational thought Marty?  Great when did you plan on doing this?
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

merithyn

They're moving her to the UK for on-going treatment - and probably safety. Hopefully, her whole family will be going with her.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Viking

Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
They're moving her to the UK for on-going treatment - and probably safety. Hopefully, her whole family will be going with her.

I'm giving 100-1 odds against her returning to Pakistan within 1 year.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

merithyn

Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
They're moving her to the UK for on-going treatment - and probably safety. Hopefully, her whole family will be going with her.

I'm giving 100-1 odds against her returning to Pakistan within 1 year.

I'm hoping that she never goes back. I know she's fighting for her country to be better, but sometimes, it's better to do it from afar.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Viking

Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 08:57:15 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 08:53:11 AM
They're moving her to the UK for on-going treatment - and probably safety. Hopefully, her whole family will be going with her.

I'm giving 100-1 odds against her returning to Pakistan within 1 year.

I'm hoping that she never goes back. I know she's fighting for her country to be better, but sometimes, it's better to do it from afar.

If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

merithyn

Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 09:04:40 AM
If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

How about we let her have her first fucking period before we worry about sending her back into the mouth of the beast, eh?
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Viking

Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 09:07:45 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 09:04:40 AM
If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

How about we let her have her first fucking period before we worry about sending her back into the mouth of the beast, eh?

I want her to get back to doing what she knew was right before the western media found out about her. Pakistan needs her.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

garbon

Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 09:07:45 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 09:04:40 AM
If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

How about we let her have her first fucking period before we worry about sending her back into the mouth of the beast, eh?

Agreed, though I'm also not sure I'd agree with his analysis as I think often these sorts of individuals (especially think of this pre-teen to early teen crusader) end up going back as they believe in helping out their country.  See Benazir Bhutto where everyone was like - if you go back, you will die.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Viking

Quote from: garbon on October 15, 2012, 09:09:33 AM
Quote from: merithyn on October 15, 2012, 09:07:45 AM
Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 09:04:40 AM
If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

How about we let her have her first fucking period before we worry about sending her back into the mouth of the beast, eh?

Agreed, though I'm also not sure I'd agree with his analysis as I think often these sorts of individuals (especially think of this pre-teen to early teen crusader) end up going back as they believe in helping out their country.  See Benazir Bhutto where everyone was like - if you go back, you will die.

Benazir didn't give up on her country. You seem determined to let it go to hell.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

merithyn

Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 09:09:06 AM
I want her to get back to doing what she knew was right before the western media found out about her. Pakistan needs her.

Pakistan can wait until she's a little older, I would think. She's only 14, Viking. She has no business walking around worrying about getting shot, hung, drawn and quartered - or worse, being the reason that it happens to her mother or father.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Viking on October 15, 2012, 09:04:40 AM
If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

Gandhi returned to India in his mid-40s. :contract:
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