14-year old Pakistani girl activist shot by Taliban

[garbon]

If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

How about we let her have her first fucking period before we worry about sending her back into the mouth of the beast, eh?

Agreed, though I'm also not sure I'd agree with his analysis as I think often these sorts of individuals (especially think of this pre-teen to early teen crusader) end up going back as they believe in helping out their country.  See Benazir Bhutto where everyone was like - if you go back, you will die.

Benazir didn't give up on her country. You seem determined to let it go to hell.

She didn't leave Pakistan?

[Viking]

If all the people who want to make pakistan a more civilized place make the same choice pakistan will remain a hell hole forever. Competent and hard working pakistanis leave at the first opportunity and that just means that there are no competent and hard working pakistanis left. Exiles rarely change things, it's the ones who stay behind like mandela, walesa, havel, king and gandhi that change the world. If she stays here (in the west that is) she'll be dissident of the month, get some awards and some press and then be forgotten while we move on to the next brave girl fighting oppression.

Gandhi returned to India in his mid-40s.

Yes, to work for freedom. His dad had sent him to south africa to be a lawyer.

[Eddie Teach]

Point being, there's no reason this teenage girl needs to throw her life away now.

[CountDeMoney]

Benazir didn't give up on her country. You seem determined to let it go to hell.

She didn't leave Pakistan?

She didn't even return fire.

[Viking]

She didn't leave Pakistan?

She returned and has the car bomb crater to prove it.

[Viking]

Point being, there's no reason this teenage girl needs to throw her life away now.

Was she throwing her life away when she first started fighting for girls education?

[merithyn]

Point being, there's no reason this teenage girl needs to throw her life away now.

Was she throwing her life away when she first started fighting for girls education?

No, because she didn't have a target on her back then. Now, however, she does, and they've already taken two shots at it. Now, it's time for her to lay low, get healthy, take care of herself and her family, and grow up. Once she's old enough to fully understand what she's doing, THEN she can go back and fight for her country.

[garbon]

She didn't leave Pakistan?

She returned and has the car bomb crater to prove it.

I take it you didn't read my post? Let me paste again.

Agreed, though I'm also not sure I'd agree with his analysis as I think often these sorts of individuals (especially think of this pre-teen to early teen crusader) end up going back as they believe in helping out their country.  See Benazir Bhutto where everyone was like - if you go back, you will die.

Which specifically means that this young girl has ample time to return and crusade for her country. She doesn't need to do it all and end her life in the next month.

[Viking]

She didn't leave Pakistan?

She returned and has the car bomb crater to prove it.

I take it you didn't read my post? Let me paste again.

Agreed, though I'm also not sure I'd agree with his analysis as I think often these sorts of individuals (especially think of this pre-teen to early teen crusader) end up going back as they believe in helping out their country.  See Benazir Bhutto where everyone was like - if you go back, you will die.

Which specifically means that this young girl has ample time to return and crusade for her country. She doesn't need to do it all and end her life in the next month.

Pakistan is a hopeless case then?

[merithyn]

She didn't leave Pakistan?

She returned and has the car bomb crater to prove it.

I take it you didn't read my post? Let me paste again.

Agreed, though I'm also not sure I'd agree with his analysis as I think often these sorts of individuals (especially think of this pre-teen to early teen crusader) end up going back as they believe in helping out their country.  See Benazir Bhutto where everyone was like - if you go back, you will die.

Which specifically means that this young girl has ample time to return and crusade for her country. She doesn't need to do it all and end her life in the next month.

Pakistan is a hopeless case then?

How the hell do you get that from what he said??

You don't think that Pakistan will still require a crusader for women's rights in the next 10 years? Hell, I expect it for the next 25-50 years. That doesn't mean that it won't or can't get better. It just means that it will take a long time to get things to where they ought to be.

[CountDeMoney]

Islamic countries are hopeless cases.

[mongers]

Point being, there's no reason this teenage girl needs to throw her life away now.

Was she throwing her life away when she first started fighting for girls education?

No, because she didn't have a target on her back then. Now, however, she does, and they've already taken two shots at it. Now, it's time for her to lay low, get healthy, take care of herself and her family, and grow up. Once she's old enough to fully understand what she's doing, THEN she can go back and fight for her country.

[Viking]

Point being, there's no reason this teenage girl needs to throw her life away now.

Was she throwing her life away when she first started fighting for girls education?

No, because she didn't have a target on her back then. Now, however, she does, and they've already taken two shots at it. Now, it's time for her to lay low, get healthy, take care of herself and her family, and grow up. Once she's old enough to fully understand what she's doing, THEN she can go back and fight for her country.

She had a target on her then, that's why they shot her. Now she has the possibility of being protected.

[CountDeMoney]

Once she's old enough to fully understand what she's doing, THEN she can go back and fight for her country.

So she doesn't know what she's doing now?

[mongers]

Point being, there's no reason this teenage girl needs to throw her life away now.

Was she throwing her life away when she first started fighting for girls education?

No, because she didn't have a target on her back then. Now, however, she does, and they've already taken two shots at it. Now, it's time for her to lay low, get healthy, take care of herself and her family, and grow up. Once she's old enough to fully understand what she's doing, THEN she can go back and fight for her country.

She had a target on her then, that's why they shot her. Now she has the possibility of being protected.

You'd trust Pakistani police and security guards, let alone their bosses ?

Haven't Pakistani politicians been murder by members of their own security detail ?
Not a Taliban deep cover agent, but someone who wakes up one morning and just decides it's gods work to kill their protected person later in the week.