25 years old and deep in debt

[garbon]

That's because they work.

They don't sound like they worked for the first kid in the story. They state it got to the point where he was useless he took the meds.

[merithyn]

They don't sound like they worked for the first kid in the story. They state it got to the point where he was useless he took the meds.

Nonetheless, Adderall and the other drugs used to treat ADHD also help focus the minds of those without the disorder, too. The side-effects aren't worth it, of course, but the reason college kids are trying to score them is because it makes studying easier for them.

[crazy canuck]

They don't sound like they worked for the first kid in the story. They state it got to the point where he was useless he took the meds.

Nonetheless, Adderall and the other drugs used to treat ADHD also help focus the minds of those without the disorder, too. The side-effects aren't worth it, of course, but the reason college kids are trying to score them is because it makes studying easier for them.

or its just that they waited to long in the term and need to start cramming. 

[merithyn]

Nonetheless, Adderall and the other drugs used to treat ADHD also help focus the minds of those without the disorder, too. The side-effects aren't worth it, of course, but the reason college kids are trying to score them is because it makes studying easier for them.

or its just that they waited to long in the term and need to start cramming.

How does that contradict what I said?

[crazy canuck]

Nonetheless, Adderall and the other drugs used to treat ADHD also help focus the minds of those without the disorder, too. The side-effects aren't worth it, of course, but the reason college kids are trying to score them is because it makes studying easier for them.

or its just that they waited to long in the term and need to start cramming.

Why must it contradict rather than be an alternative - you know the ordinary meaning of the word "or" 
How does that contradict what I said?

[Phillip V]

German Education Minister Quits in Plagiarism Case

"Germany's education minister resigned Saturday after a university decided to withdraw her doctorate, finding that she plagiarized parts of her thesis...

Schavan's resignation comes two years after then-Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg lost his doctorate and quit when it emerged that he copied large parts of his doctoral thesis. Schavan said at the time she was "ashamed" of that affair.

Doctorates are highly prized in Germany, where it is not unusual for people to insist on being referred to by their full academic title."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/02/09/world/europe/ap-eu-germany-minister-plagiarism.html

[CountDeMoney]

What the hell goes on over there?  1980?  Is it usual practice for Germans to constantly go over a public figure's academic records, long after they've graduated?

The review was undertaken after an anonymous blogger last year raised allegations of plagiarism, which the minister denies.

Really?  An anonymous blogger?  That's all it takes?

[Syt]

Germans aren't quite as bad as Austrians with regards to titles. In Germany people like being referred to as Doctor or Professor. In Austria, even a Master is often addressed as such (Herr/Frau Magister), which is really silly.

[CountDeMoney]

Germans aren't quite as bad as Austrians with regards to titles.

Imagine that.

[Syt]

What the hell goes on over there?  1980?  Is it usual practice for Germans to constantly go over a public figure's academic records, long after they've graduated?

The review was undertaken after an anonymous blogger last year raised allegations of plagiarism, which the minister denies.

Really?  An anonymous blogger?  That's all it takes?

Doctorate thesis are usually publically available. So, basically, what you do is search for text in various search engines, and it's relatively easy to verify. It then quickly becomes apparent whether or not there's a big amount of overlap. I think in the case of the defense minister (who was on a fast track to become #2 in Merkel's party) it turned out that 94% or so of his paper were copied.

[Syt]

Germans aren't quite as bad as Austrians with regards to titles.

Imagine that.

An Austrian explained to me that it's from after WW1 - Austria disbanded their aristocratic titles, while Germany kept them. That led to other titles gaining in favor. Though the lowest of the title hunters are wives of doctors who insist of being addressed as "Frau Doktor". They're referred to as having earned their doctorate at the registry office (which is the official place for weddings - church weddings are optional window dressing).

[Eddie Teach]

An Austrian explained to me that it's from after WW1 - Austria disbanded their aristocratic titles, while Germany kept them. That led to other titles gaining in favor. Though the lowest of the title hunters are wives of doctors who insist of being addressed as "Frau Doktor". They're referred to as having earned their doctorate at the registry office (which is the official place for weddings - church weddings are optional window dressing).

I suppose that's ok if it's followed by her husband's full name.

[Zanza]

What the hell goes on over there?  1980?  Is it usual practice for Germans to constantly go over a public figure's academic records, long after they've graduated?

No, it's a quite recent phenomenon.

Really?  An anonymous blogger?  That's all it takes?

The university conducted its own evaluation of course.

[Syt]

I suppose that's ok if it's followed by her husband's full name.

No, just last name. Mind you, most wives of doctors don't insist on it, and those that do are cunts.

[CountDeMoney]

What the hell goes on over there?  1980?  Is it usual practice for Germans to constantly go over a public figure's academic records, long after they've graduated?

The review was undertaken after an anonymous blogger last year raised allegations of plagiarism, which the minister denies.

Really?  An anonymous blogger?  That's all it takes?

Doctorate thesis are usually publically available. So, basically, what you do is search for text in various search engines, and it's relatively easy to verify. It then quickly becomes apparent whether or not there's a big amount of overlap. I think in the case of the defense minister (who was on a fast track to become #2 in Merkel's party) it turned out that 94% or so of his paper were copied.

Yeah, I know they're publicly available;  but I mean, you just really have to have a hate hard-on for somebody to review their doctorate from 1980 to look for errors in somebody.  Talk about not having a life.