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25 years old and deep in debt

Started by CountDeMoney, September 10, 2012, 10:43:12 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on January 09, 2013, 11:14:09 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
Obviously a cubicle is better than the unemployment line, but as some sort of dream job?  :yuk:

There are a lot of people...average Americans who work their whole lives and never see the salaries that some cubicle workers draw.

Yup;  more than a few would take the cubicle life, complete with annoying coworkers and "Hang In There" cat posters, for something like healthcare.

Monoriu

Quote from: Tyr on January 09, 2013, 11:04:36 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on January 09, 2013, 10:33:56 PM
Similar thing happening in HK.  We see too many cases of people borrowing heavily to study a diploma or certificate or associate degree or what not.  They end up doing the exact same basic jobs before and after the studies.  Even the degree holders aren't getting the office jobs anymore, so these guys are hopeless.  People need to wake up and realise that studying a two-year associate degree won't get you into a cubicle. 
Yet not getting the degree further reduces your chances. Its a bs situation.

It is a do or die situation.  Only good degrees from good places count. 

MadImmortalMan

No degrees count. Ivan Illich was right.   :P
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 09, 2013, 11:20:26 PM
Yup;  more than a few would take the cubicle life, complete with annoying coworkers and "Hang In There" cat posters, for something like healthcare.

Even without the bigger salary and perks, it's a better job than many. You have much more privacy working in a cubicle than in a restaurant, for instance.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

sbr

Quote from: garbon on January 09, 2013, 11:14:09 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 09, 2013, 10:51:40 PM
Obviously a cubicle is better than the unemployment line, but as some sort of dream job?  :yuk:

There are a lot of people...average Americans who work their whole lives and never see the salaries that some cubicle workers draw.

Oh I know.  I probably could have done it, but I have never had an office or desk job, and I can't imagine starting now.  Though on the other hand I'm not sure I can imagine climbing ladders and crawling around under desks for another 20 years either. 

I grew up working in restaurants and doing laborer type jobs and now have been an electrician for 18 years.  I get irritated enough having to go to the same huge hospital campus every day, much less going to the same desk in the same building with the same view every day.

I can understand wanting a "white-collar" job, or something in a specific field but to dream of a cubicle of all things?  That's what I was jabbing Mono about.

garbon

Quote from: sbr on January 10, 2013, 12:01:06 AM
Oh I know.  I probably could have done it, but I have never had an office or desk job, and I can't imagine starting now.  Though on the other hand I'm not sure I can imagine climbing ladders and crawling around under desks for another 20 years either. 

I grew up working in restaurants and doing laborer type jobs and now have been an electrician for 18 years.  I get irritated enough having to go to the same huge hospital campus every day, much less going to the same desk in the same building with the same view every day.

I can understand wanting a "white-collar" job, or something in a specific field but to dream of a cubicle of all things?  That's what I was jabbing Mono about.

Well you're the one who introduced the notion of the dream job. I do think that there are many people who would like to make the salaries they can get sitting in an office and Mono dead on that an associate's degree isn't a ticket to get a great salary.

Besides, while routine may bother you - that doesn't have to be the case of other people. In fact, some take comfort in routine.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Monoriu on January 09, 2013, 10:58:49 PM
A cubicle, by any means necessary.

A job that allows one to telecommute, by any means necessary. :contract:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Phillip V

As my most time-consuming pastime is reading (news and books), a desk job allows me to do that while getting paid. e-books now even allow me to read in my web browser as if I was working! :o

Next best thing is retirement where I will no longer have to worry about the non-reading parts of the workday.

Ideologue

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KRonn

I moved into a cubicle about a year and a half ago. Before that I had an office at a Hospital but the corp rented and setup a building for most of the IT, Financial, Billing, Home Care and other groups that were in the various Hospitals or other office buildings. So now I'm in a cubicle. Not bad, no biggie. Best thing is that I'm just about three miles from home, so the commute is great!

As for college, I did most of my college time in night school, probably before it became so uber expensive. So glad that I don't have to deal with college expenses now, which I think are just crazy.

Phillip V

Parents' Financial Support Linked to Lower Grades

"Parents saving for college costs, take heed: A new national study has found that the more college money parents provide — whether in absolute terms or as a share of total costs — the lower their children's college grades."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/education/parents-financial-support-linked-to-college-grades.html


Darth Wagtaros

Grades don't matter except for scholarships and gradschool.
PDH!

DGuller

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 15, 2013, 08:45:07 AM
Grades don't matter except for scholarships and gradschool.
And jobs after college.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: garbon on January 15, 2013, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 15, 2013, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 15, 2013, 08:45:07 AM
Grades don't matter except for scholarships and gradschool.
And jobs after college.

Probably mixed on that.

Totally depends on the field you go into, and only for the first job. After that, no one cares anymore.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...