The DNC KenyanCommieMooselimbDidn'tBuildIt MegaThread!

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Tamas

#75
September 04, 2012, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 04, 2012, 10:47:39 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 04, 2012, 10:40:21 AM
I am not sure what's the difference there. Tax income is from the private sector. Taxes on public sector employees? Come on, they get their salary FROM tax money to begin with. They just channel some of it back.

Tax income comes from private sector employees.  As we know, the private sector industry itself does a fine job dodging as many taxes as possible.
I hope a public sector employee pulls you over and beats you with his channeled back nightstick, you fucking tard.

Them cheating a lot of tax money away doesn't change a god damn thing. What they end up actually paying is the real tax income, from which the public employees are payed.

Queequeg

#76
September 04, 2012, 10:58:11 AM
Tamas, by your definition would Bismarck and Deng Zhiaoping, both career politicians, have less access to the "real world" because they never managed a McDonalds? 
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Razgovory

#77
September 04, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 04, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 04, 2012, 10:32:44 AM
Who wants to celebrate mediocrity?

Labor unions.

Actually pretty much any organization with employees.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#78
September 04, 2012, 11:11:14 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 04, 2012, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 04, 2012, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 04, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
Also people living off government handouts or public sector jobs must STFU because they are living off of the private sector's contributions and are either hangers-by or mere administrators of society and economy.

Wrong, you fucking fucktard; "government handouts" and "public sector jobs" are funded by the taxpayers, not the the private sector's contributions.

You're really starting to get on my nerves this morning with your bullshit.  Don't make me Martify your dumb ass so early in the fucking day.

I am not sure what's the difference there. Tax income is from the private sector. Taxes on public sector employees? Come on, they get their salary FROM tax money to begin with. They just channel some of it back.

What so Public sector employees shouldn't be taxed?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Syt

#79
September 04, 2012, 11:19:32 AM
A pie chart, because I feel like it.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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derspiess

#80
September 04, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

#81
September 04, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
What, never heard the Peter Principle?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#82
September 04, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
What, never heard the Peter Principle?

Yes.  But that is a far cry from the medocrity that labor unions fight for, encourage, and even enforce.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

MadImmortalMan

#83
September 04, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 11:11:14 AM

What so Public sector employees shouldn't be taxed?

It does seem kinda silly. Pay them and then tax it back--too much paperwork. Just pay them less.
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CountDeMoney

#84
September 04, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 04, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
What, never heard the Peter Principle?

Yes.  But that is a far cry from the medocrity that labor unions fight for, encourage, and even enforce.

Yeah, living wages: true mediocrity.

derspiess

#85
September 04, 2012, 11:51:34 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 04, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 04, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
What, never heard the Peter Principle?

Yes.  But that is a far cry from the medocrity that labor unions fight for, encourage, and even enforce.

Yeah, living wages: true mediocrity.

:lol: You gonna go "take those son of a bitches [sic] out", Mr. Trumka?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Berkut

#86
September 04, 2012, 11:52:09 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 04, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 11:11:14 AM

What so Public sector employees shouldn't be taxed?

It does seem kinda silly. Pay them and then tax it back--too much paperwork. Just pay them less.

It would be more work to have a lot of people not paying taxes, and trying to figure out what their adjusted salaries should be, and more importantly, not being invested in the system in that manner.

Hell, if I didn't pay taxes, you can be sure how I would be voting on any proposed tax increases...
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Razgovory

#87
September 04, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 04, 2012, 11:41:30 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 04, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
What, never heard the Peter Principle?

Yes.  But that is a far cry from the medocrity that labor unions fight for, encourage, and even enforce.

Sounds like you are operating from flaw preconceptions.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

#88
September 04, 2012, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 04, 2012, 11:51:34 AM
:lol: You gonna go "take those son of a bitches [sic] out", Mr. Trumka?

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY

garbon

#89
September 04, 2012, 11:57:50 AM
Quote from: Berkut on September 04, 2012, 11:52:09 AM
Hell, if I didn't pay taxes, you can be sure how I would be voting on any proposed tax increases...

Unless, of course, it was linked to lower take home pay. 

I agree though it wouldn't be a good idea / it would be basically like the gov't saying we'll set your amount of withholding for you.
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