The Thurston Mittens the 3rd Veep Megathread

[Razgovory]

The Economist stole my line.  They call the Ryan choice "risky for Romney, good for America." 

I thought you were off your Ryan kick after you accepted JR's argument that the Ryan plan was nonsense.

[Queequeg]

Derspiess, that's probably the most ridiculed article in Newsweek in multiple years.  Not something to be proud of.

[Admiral Yi]

I thought you were off your Ryan kick after you accepted JR's argument that the Ryan plan was nonsense.

"My Ryan kick" has only ever been your strawman.

[Martinus]

The Economist stole my line.  They call the Ryan choice "risky for Romney, good for America." 

Indeed, if it keeps Romney from being elected.

This is the magazine that endorsed Dubya's reelection, so meh.  Nobody listened to them when they endorsed McCain in the 2000 primaries, either.

They endorsed McCain/Palin ticket too. I love how some right wingers call them a leftwing rag. 

[Phillip V]

The Economist stole my line.  They call the Ryan choice "risky for Romney, good for America." 

Indeed, if it keeps Romney from being elected.

This is the magazine that endorsed Dubya's reelection, so meh.  Nobody listened to them when they endorsed McCain in the 2000 primaries, either.

They endorsed McCain/Palin ticket too. I love how some right wingers call them a leftwing rag. 

  The Economist endorsed Obama.

[Faeelin]

Doesn't Ryan's plan effectively rely on magic to reduce the deficit?

[Viking]

  The Economist endorsed Obama.

I'm pretty sure the Economist followed my "endorsement" track of

Clinton vs Obama
McCain vs Obama
Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin

[derspiess]

Doesn't Ryan's plan effectively rely on magic to reduce the deficit?

Yes, and Republicans want to poison the water/air, steal old people's medicine, etc.

[garbon]

From the Financial Times:

The president has his own problems with credibility. Much of the story of his first term has been that of a leader with all the intellectual skills required for the presidency but one lacking the bold temperament needed to translate intelligent analysis into effective action. His prospectus for a second term is at best hazy. Beyond the usual bromides, allies struggle even in private to articulate the president's ambitions for the next four years.

Mr Obama does have a deficit reduction plan – combining spending cuts and tax increases. But it falls short of the framework put forward by his own bipartisan commission. The Bowles-Simpson plan demanded deeper spending cuts and broader tax increases than Mr Obama has thought politically prudent to accept. Yet by shunning the plan. and by focusing during the campaign on raising taxes on the rich, Mr Obama has given the impression that he too is shirking the brutal fiscal reality.

I have heard Democrats say that it would be difficult for Mr Obama to change his mind and embrace Bowles-Simpson. Republicans would mock the about-turn. Maybe. But the president needs a project for his second term. Reviving the economy and then restoring health to the public finances is not a bad start. For all its flaws, Bowles-Simpson offers Mr Obama precious credibility.

[Grey Fox]

Doesn't Ryan's plan effectively rely on magic to reduce the deficit?

Yes, and Republicans want to poison the water/air, steal old people's medicine, etc.

Yes. What do you have to say for yourself?

[CountDeMoney]

From the Financial Times:

Mr Obama does have a deficit reduction plan – combining spending cuts and tax increases. But it falls short of the framework put forward by his own bipartisan commission. The Bowles-Simpson plan demanded deeper spending cuts and broader tax increases than Mr Obama has thought politically prudent to accept. Yet by shunning the plan. and by focusing during the campaign on raising taxes on the rich, Mr Obama has given the impression that he too is shirking the brutal fiscal reality.

Not really a viable criticism of Obama that the Romney-Ryan campaign can use, since Mr. Chairman of the Budget Committee poo-poohed it as well.  Criticizing the President for rejecting the same plan you voted against doesn't float.

[garbon]

Not that they should but that in all of this, I realized that I didn't know what Obama's concrete plan was.

[derspiess]

Doesn't Ryan's plan effectively rely on magic to reduce the deficit?

Yes, and Republicans want to poison the water/air, steal old people's medicine, etc.

Yes. What do you have to say for yourself?

Nothing further, your honor.

[The Minsky Moment]

Doesn't Ryan's plan effectively rely on magic to reduce the deficit?

Yes, and Republicans want to poison the water/air, steal old people's medicine, etc.

Acording to Mitt Romney, his VP candidate is doing exactly that.
Romney claims that Obama is stealing 700B from medicare.
Yet his VP candidate banks those exact same savings for his deficit reduction plan.  While really REALLY wouldn't work otherwise, a non-starter.

[Razgovory]

I thought you were off your Ryan kick after you accepted JR's argument that the Ryan plan was nonsense.

"My Ryan kick" has only ever been your strawman.

Explain.