Full time job? Consider yourself lucky

[Grey Fox]

I'm glad I was accepted in plumbery/heating school this fall - the demand's so great it'll be nigh-on impossible not to find work. 

Nice. I'm think about going into something like that too. Electrician would be fun but everyone is a damn electrician already.

Plumber, there's an idea.

[Strix]

Yeah, while I certainly am concerned about the lack of jobs, it isn't really a matter of luck.

That is correct. It's a matter of a better Union. 

[Habbaku]

Yeah, while I certainly am concerned about the lack of jobs, it isn't really a matter of luck.

That is correct. It's a matter of a better Union. 

I hope Scott Walker becomes governor of New York when he's done in Wisconsin.

[Drakken]

Plumber, there's an idea.

Good luck. When I passed my admission test we were around 200 applicants that day, for that school, and I heard through the grapevine they would take only one in three applicants. The Sec 4 Math questions weren't doozies, especially given that I haven't been in high school since the 90s. 

Everyone reasonably good in school and going the professional way attempt to enter in plumbery/heating because it's very well paid even during companionship. So come prepared, and do practice your manual/finger dexterity before, you'll need it.

[Scipio]

Working for yourself, for fuckssakes.  Where's the entrepreneurial spirit?  Whining see-you-next-Tuesdays!

Oh how I wish I could mention some stuff from The Back Room, Mr. "I'm an entrepeneur".

I am proof that anyone, no matter how crappy a businessman, can succeed as an entrepreneur.  But you are proof that a Ukrainian, no matter how successful, can't spell 'entrepreneur.'

[DGuller]

I'm glad I was accepted in plumbery/heating school this fall - the demand's so great it'll be nigh-on impossible not to find work. 

No shit.

[DGuller]

Yeah, while I certainly am concerned about the lack of jobs, it isn't really a matter of luck.

It's definitely not all a matter of luck, but to say there is no luck involved is the height of hubris.  There is luck involved in being good at things that are in demand, there is luck involved in graduating during a boom economy, there is unfortunately a lot of luck in the interviewing process, etc, etc. 

Yes, if you're a genius with no serious flaws, you probably won't ever stay unemployed for long.  However, we can't all be at the top of the field, and the success level of people in the middle can hinge greatly on having a moment of good fortune at the right time.  On average, the economy is made up of average people.

[Barrister]

Working for yourself, for fuckssakes.  Where's the entrepreneurial spirit?  Whining see-you-next-Tuesdays!

Oh how I wish I could mention some stuff from The Back Room, Mr. "I'm an entrepeneur".

I am proof that anyone, no matter how crappy a businessman, can succeed as an entrepreneur.  But you are proof that a Ukrainian, no matter how successful, can't spell 'entrepreneur.'

I would say more, but I feel bound by the TBR Oath of Secrecy.

[Malthus]

Yeah, while I certainly am concerned about the lack of jobs, it isn't really a matter of luck.

It's definitely not all a matter of luck, but to say there is no luck involved is the height of hubris.  There is luck involved in being good at things that are in demand, there is luck involved in graduating during a boom economy, there is unfortunately a lot of luck in the interviewing process, etc, etc. 

Yes, if you're a genius with no serious flaws, you probably won't ever stay unemployed for long.  However, we can't all be at the top of the field, and the success level of people in the middle can hinge greatly on having a moment of good fortune at the right time.  On average, the economy is made up of average people.

There is also this: job fields are like investments, in that following the common wisdom leads to being victimized by boom/bust cycles.  Sure, right now, being a plumber is in demand, but it won't be forever if it is widely seen as a good job to go into.

Same happened with law. Used to be, become a lawyer, get a high-paying job ... which led to a lot of people becomming lawyers. Suddenly, it isn't so easy to get a job as one.

[Barrister]

Yeah, while I certainly am concerned about the lack of jobs, it isn't really a matter of luck.

It's definitely not all a matter of luck, but to say there is no luck involved is the height of hubris.  There is luck involved in being good at things that are in demand, there is luck involved in graduating during a boom economy, there is unfortunately a lot of luck in the interviewing process, etc, etc. 

Yes, if you're a genius with no serious flaws, you probably won't ever stay unemployed for long.  However, we can't all be at the top of the field, and the success level of people in the middle can hinge greatly on having a moment of good fortune at the right time.  On average, the economy is made up of average people.

There is also this: job fields are like investments, in that following the common wisdom leads to being victimized by boom/bust cycles.  Sure, right now, being a plumber is in demand, but it won't be forever if it is widely seen as a good job to go into.

Same happened with law. Used to be, become a lawyer, get a high-paying job ... which led to a lot of people becomming lawyers. Suddenly, it isn't so easy to get a job as one.

Since becoming a plumber means having to work with feces on a regular basis I suspect it will always be an in-demand job...

[CountDeMoney]

Since becoming a plumber means having to work with feces on a regular basis I suspect it will always be an in-demand job...

I've met a few master plumbers that drive nice fucking Benzes on the weekend on their way to their club level PSL season tickets for the Ravens.

Plumbers and electricians can really make beau coup bucks, but it's not a glorious enough occupation.  That's why they're screaming for apprentices to get into the business--it's just not glamorous enough. 

No TV dramas based on plumbers, I guess.  ZOMG TURN ON THE TV "GREYS ALKALINITY" IS COMING ON

[Drakken]

Since becoming a plumber means having to work with feces on a regular basis I suspect it will always be an in-demand job...

Companions and apprentices, plus those in home repair service, deal with feces.

Plumbers can also work on installing pipes and plumbery systems on construction sites, and also both fix and install heating systems in both residential, commercial, and industrial settings. My future formation would handle both plumbery and heating, and with a Red Seal certificate I could work anywhere in Canada.

EDIT : CDM beat me to it, more eloquently. 

[Admiral Yi]

And think of all the bored housewives you'll get to communally seduce. 

[Scipio]

Working for yourself, for fuckssakes.  Where's the entrepreneurial spirit?  Whining see-you-next-Tuesdays!

Oh how I wish I could mention some stuff from The Back Room, Mr. "I'm an entrepeneur".

I am proof that anyone, no matter how crappy a businessman, can succeed as an entrepreneur.  But you are proof that a Ukrainian, no matter how successful, can't spell 'entrepreneur.'

I would say more, but I feel bound by the TBR Oath of Secrecy.

Whatever.  I release you, so you can unleash your rhetorical hounds.

[The Brain]

Working for yourself, for fuckssakes.  Where's the entrepreneurial spirit?  Whining see-you-next-Tuesdays!

Oh how I wish I could mention some stuff from The Back Room, Mr. "I'm an entrepeneur".

I am proof that anyone, no matter how crappy a businessman, can succeed as an entrepreneur.  But you are proof that a Ukrainian, no matter how successful, can't spell 'entrepreneur.'

I would say more, but I feel bound by the TBR Oath of Secrecy.

Whatever.  I release you, so you can unleash your rhetorical hounds.