Iran warns the US carrier against returning to the Persian gulf

Started by Martinus, January 03, 2012, 04:05:36 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Martinus

What do you guys think would be the US response if Iran somehow managed to inflict casualties on the carrier crew or even sink it?

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Martinus on January 03, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
What do you guys think would be the US response if Iran somehow managed to inflict casualties on the carrier crew or even sink it?
Disproportionate
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Martinus

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 03, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
What do you guys think would be the US response if Iran somehow managed to inflict casualties on the carrier crew or even sink it?
Disproportionate

Are we talking about glassing of Tehran? I'd like to see it.  :cool:

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Martinus on January 03, 2012, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 03, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
What do you guys think would be the US response if Iran somehow managed to inflict casualties on the carrier crew or even sink it?
Disproportionate

Are we talking about glassing of Tehran? I'd like to see it.  :cool:
No, but we'd smash every power plant and destroy every bridge and dam. Hello Afghanistan East.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

PDH

I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

-------
"I'm pretty sure my level of depression has nothing to do with how much of a fucking asshole you are."

-CdM


jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 06:37:38 AM
Quote from: besuchov on January 03, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
Considering how narrow the straight is, if Iran tried isnt it rather likely that they would sink or seriously damage a transiting carrier? If so, its a pretty big bet to call when you send the carrier in there again. On the other hand you cant really not send to carrier in since it would signal that Iran can dictate what passes through the strait...
In a wargame as Iran a US general managed to sink a carrier and some escorts using kamikaze speed boats and a fuckton of missiles. However the Navy said he broke the rules of the game and it didn't count.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I believe that was a wargame for the invasion of Iraq. 
PDH!

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 03, 2012, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 06:37:38 AM
Quote from: besuchov on January 03, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
Considering how narrow the straight is, if Iran tried isnt it rather likely that they would sink or seriously damage a transiting carrier? If so, its a pretty big bet to call when you send the carrier in there again. On the other hand you cant really not send to carrier in since it would signal that Iran can dictate what passes through the strait...
In a wargame as Iran a US general managed to sink a carrier and some escorts using kamikaze speed boats and a fuckton of missiles. However the Navy said he broke the rules of the game and it didn't count.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I believe that was a wargame for the invasion of Iraq.
No, Von Ripper was war gaming as an expy of Iran
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

mongers

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 03, 2012, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 07:51:49 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 03, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
What do you guys think would be the US response if Iran somehow managed to inflict casualties on the carrier crew or even sink it?
Disproportionate

Are we talking about glassing of Tehran? I'd like to see it.  :cool:
No, but we'd smash every power plant and destroy every bridge and dam. Hello Afghanistan East.

Back in the real world, away from the cheap bluster, this won't happen because the US would want to be seen waging economic warfare against the Iranian people.

Diplomatically it would be an own goal following on from an Iranian aggression, I'd trust the state department and govt. to have a bit more sense and response in a more measured, effective way.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

jimmy olsen

Quote from: mongers on January 03, 2012, 09:04:47 AM

Back in the real world, away from the cheap bluster, this won't happen because the US would want to be seen waging economic warfare against the Iranian people.

Diplomatically it would be an own goal following on from an Iranian aggression, I'd trust the state department and govt. to have a bit more sense and response in a more measured, effective way.
We've been waging economic war against the Iranian people for years.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

mongers

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 03, 2012, 09:04:47 AM

Back in the real world, away from the cheap bluster, this won't happen because the US would want to be seen waging economic warfare against the Iranian people.

Diplomatically it would be an own goal following on from an Iranian aggression, I'd trust the state department and govt. to have a bit more sense and response in a more measured, effective way.
We've been waging economic war against the Iranian people for years.

You doing what you'd criticise the left wing for doing, taking a well understood term about warfare and applying it to something entirely different and saying oh look the US is at war with Iran already etc.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"


Grinning_Colossus

Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 03, 2012, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 06:37:38 AM
Quote from: besuchov on January 03, 2012, 06:35:59 AM
Considering how narrow the straight is, if Iran tried isnt it rather likely that they would sink or seriously damage a transiting carrier? If so, its a pretty big bet to call when you send the carrier in there again. On the other hand you cant really not send to carrier in since it would signal that Iran can dictate what passes through the strait...
In a wargame as Iran a US general managed to sink a carrier and some escorts using kamikaze speed boats and a fuckton of missiles. However the Navy said he broke the rules of the game and it didn't count.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I believe that was a wargame for the invasion of Iraq.
No, Von Ripper was war gaming as an expy of Iran

Van Riper played as Unnamed Middle Eastern Nation and actually sank the whole battle group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
Quis futuit ipsos fututores?

Capetan Mihali

Quote from: mongers on January 03, 2012, 09:12:42 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 03, 2012, 09:06:17 AM
Quote from: mongers on January 03, 2012, 09:04:47 AM

Back in the real world, away from the cheap bluster, this won't happen because the US would want to be seen waging economic warfare against the Iranian people.

Diplomatically it would be an own goal following on from an Iranian aggression, I'd trust the state department and govt. to have a bit more sense and response in a more measured, effective way.
We've been waging economic war against the Iranian people for years.

You doing what you'd criticise the left wing for doing, taking a well understood term about warfare and applying it to something entirely different and saying oh look the US is at war with Iran already etc.

I think the main point is that it is abundantly clear by now that the US government doesn't give a shit about the civilian/humanitarian repercussions of its sanctions.
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)