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Started by jimmy olsen, December 19, 2011, 07:06:58 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2012, 02:14:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 02:07:50 PM
He's also termed out and dead.  So I don't think he'll make a good showing.

Personally I think that Reagan like Bush deliberately played up their folksy, non-intellectual persona.  I suspect that both men were much smarter then they let on and preferred to have potential opponents and critics underestimate them.
I definitely agree about Reagan.  He may not have been book-smart, but he was definitely intelligent, and had all the right political instincts.  I don't agree about Bush, I think W was a legit moron, at least by presidential standards.  He was elected not because he was underestimated, but because 49%-51% of the country was in a mood to have a moron as a president.

Well he was elected twice.  I think Bush was smarter then we thought, and played us as fools.  I suspect that his tendency to say stupid things was genuine, but smart people do that as well.  I'm not saying he's the smartest president ever, but I don't think he's one of the dumber ones either.  Articles written after his Presidency have given me different opinion of the man.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Caliga

I think it can be very advantageous to get your opponents to misunderestimate you.  See: Claudius.
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Darth Wagtaros

He isn't stupid.  His just plain folksy manner won him the Presidency whilst Gore's roboman impression turned people off.
PDH!

Ed Anger

I don't regret voting for W twice. Al Gore? Tipper was attached. Kerry? Eggplant wife.

W? inoffensive wife.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2012, 07:24:21 PM
I don't regret voting for W twice. Al Gore? Tipper was attached. Kerry? Eggplant wife.

W? inoffensive wife.
CdM vehicular homidice joke incoming!
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2012, 05:22:10 PM
That suggestion is misleading.  I don't think of just regulations when I think of Warren, and I don't think you do either, or the bit about economic suicide would be overly hyperbolic even for such a statement.  I think of the economic ideology that she is promoting on the campaign trail, and her economic ideology is in direct contrast to the casino capitalism that has been in power in the last decade, if not two or three.

Her economic ideology is risk avoidance?  Odd that I've never heard her mention it.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
I guess we'll have to disagree.  Political irony combined with economic suicide is not my idea of ossum.
I think that's a wee bit over the top.  The truth is there's a whole gulf between the left-wing of the Democrats and economic suicide.
Let's bomb Russia!

Razgovory

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2012, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
I guess we'll have to disagree.  Political irony combined with economic suicide is not my idea of ossum.
I think that's a wee bit over the top.  The truth is there's a whole gulf between the left-wing of the Democrats and economic suicide.

Not to the GOP.  Anything that doesn't involve tax cuts is economic suicide.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 08:08:38 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2012, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
I guess we'll have to disagree.  Political irony combined with economic suicide is not my idea of ossum.
I think that's a wee bit over the top.  The truth is there's a whole gulf between the left-wing of the Democrats and economic suicide.

Not to the GOP.  Anything that doesn't involve tax cuts for the rich is economic suicide.

FYP. Tax cuts for middle and lower classes are also economic suicide.
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Razgovory

I don't see how you fixed my post. :huh:  You altered it, then disagreed with it your alteration.  I. R. Confused.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Razgovory on February 06, 2012, 01:05:56 AM
I don't see how you fixed my post. :huh:  You altered it, then disagreed with it your alteration.  I. R. Confused.

Yeah, I screwed up. It should be "tax cuts for the middle class" in the FYP.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
  Political irony combined with economic suicide is not my idea of ossum.

Could you be more specific?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 06, 2012, 01:39:47 PM
Could you be more specific?

Any loan that the borrower can't or doesn't want to repay was the result of fraud and should be forgiven.  Any banking fee that the customer doesn't like is unfair and should be reduced or eliminated.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 01:46:18 PM
Any loan that the borrower can't or doesn't want to repay was the result of fraud and should be forgiven.  Any banking fee that the customer doesn't like is unfair and should be reduced or eliminated.

I don't know what the latter is about.  On the former, she advocates loan forgiveness through the bankruptcy system, which is what it was designed for.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 06, 2012, 01:50:16 PM
On the former, she advocates loan forgiveness through the bankruptcy system, which is what it was designed for.

She advocates loan foregiveness and transfer of the collateral.