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GOP Primary Megathread!

Started by jimmy olsen, December 19, 2011, 07:06:58 PM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Ideologue on February 04, 2012, 10:01:44 PM
Uh.  Negative. :huh:

You just don't see it because you've been brainwashed by the Military/Industrial Complex.  :ph34r:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Phillip V

The results are coming in quite slowly.

Phillip V


fhdz

Quote from: Ideologue on February 04, 2012, 12:04:11 AM
Why's Obama got to be the black line?

WHERE ALL THE UNEMPLOYED HONKEYS AT?
and the horse you rode in on

Razgovory

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2012, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 04, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
What's the deal with all the people rooting for Paul?  Am I not giving you people enough crazy?

Stoner vote.  Morons.

That's what I'm thinking.  Most of Paul's ideas are really bad, he's prone to conspiracy theories, and has never demonstration anything resembling the correct skill set required for being President.  Hell, the man can't remember who wrote his own newsletter.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
That's what I'm thinking.  Most of Paul's ideas are really bad, he's prone to conspiracy theories, and has never demonstration anything resembling the correct skill set required for being President.  Hell, the man can't remember who wrote his own newsletter.
:rolleyes:  Reagan probably couldn't remember quite a bit more than that, and he was still the best president this world (or maybe even the whole universe) has had.

Razgovory

He's also termed out and dead.  So I don't think he'll make a good showing.

Personally I think that Reagan like Bush deliberately played up their folksy, non-intellectual persona.  I suspect that both men were much smarter then they let on and preferred to have potential opponents and critics underestimate them.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 02:07:50 PM
He's also termed out and dead.  So I don't think he'll make a good showing.

Personally I think that Reagan like Bush deliberately played up their folksy, non-intellectual persona.  I suspect that both men were much smarter then they let on and preferred to have potential opponents and critics underestimate them.
I definitely agree about Reagan.  He may not have been book-smart, but he was definitely intelligent, and had all the right political instincts.  I don't agree about Bush, I think W was a legit moron, at least by presidential standards.  He was elected not because he was underestimated, but because 49%-51% of the country was in a mood to have a moron as a president.

Admiral Yi

An article in the NYT on possible Democratic presidential contenders in 2016 mentioned Elizabeth Warren.  That would be less than ossum.

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
An article in the NYT on possible Democratic presidential contenders in 2016 mentioned Elizabeth Warren.  That would be less than ossum.
Let her win the Senate seat first.  And I would disagree about the awesomeness part:  just the fact that Warren is running for political office is due to Republicans doing the bidding of their oligarch masters.  If that act of shameless corrupt lobbying results in Warren becoming a president in 2016, then it would be the most awesome backfire in politics since picking Teddy Roosevelt as a VP candidate.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
Let her win the Senate seat first.  And I would disagree about the awesomeness part:  just the fact that Warren is running for political office is due to Republicans doing the bidding of their oligarch masters.  If that act of shameless corrupt lobbying results in Warren becoming a president in 2016, then it would be the most awesome backfire in politics since picking Teddy Roosevelt as a VP candidate.

I guess we'll have to disagree.  Political irony combined with economic suicide is not my idea of ossum.

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2012, 03:41:34 PM
Let her win the Senate seat first.  And I would disagree about the awesomeness part:  just the fact that Warren is running for political office is due to Republicans doing the bidding of their oligarch masters.  If that act of shameless corrupt lobbying results in Warren becoming a president in 2016, then it would be the most awesome backfire in politics since picking Teddy Roosevelt as a VP candidate.

I guess we'll have to disagree.  Political irony combined with economic suicide is not my idea of ossum.
Well, I don't assume that her political ideas will lead to economic suicide, obviously.  I think casino capitalism protected by bought and paid for with free speech politicians has a lot going for it when it comes to economic suicide.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2012, 04:00:19 PM
Well, I don't assume that her political ideas will lead to economic suicide, obviously.  I think casino capitalism protected by bought and paid for with free speech politicians has a lot going for it when it comes to economic suicide.

The way you put those two sentences right next to each other like that suggests you see a connection between casino capitalism and Elizabeth Warren's regulatory ideas.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 02:07:50 PMPersonally I think that Reagan like Bush deliberately played up their folksy, non-intellectual persona.  I suspect that both men were much smarter then they let on and preferred to have potential opponents and critics underestimate them.

Reagan may have been folksy, but I wouldn't have categorized him as a non-intellectual persona, given the breadth of his entire political career.  Maybe not a policy wonk, but as we know about organizational cultures, big picture leaders are certainly not necessarily "non-intellectual".

Now Dubya, on the other hand, that fucker was as moronic as advertised.

DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 05, 2012, 04:24:32 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 05, 2012, 04:00:19 PM
Well, I don't assume that her political ideas will lead to economic suicide, obviously.  I think casino capitalism protected by bought and paid for with free speech politicians has a lot going for it when it comes to economic suicide.

The way you put those two sentences right next to each other like that suggests you see a connection between casino capitalism and Elizabeth Warren's regulatory ideas.
That suggestion is misleading.  I don't think of just regulations when I think of Warren, and I don't think you do either, or the bit about economic suicide would be overly hyperbolic even for such a statement.  I think of the economic ideology that she is promoting on the campaign trail, and her economic ideology is in direct contrast to the casino capitalism that has been in power in the last decade, if not two or three.