Taliban shoots down Chinook helicopter, killing 31 US soldiers

[Slargos]

However, the basic idea is not at all stupid, just ignorant.

See? That wasn't so hard.

I would have assumed that if it was possible, practically and economically (and perhaps most importantly, useful), for the dunecoons to affix proximity fuses they would've done so.

I don't see why Ide should catch such shit for merely asking the question, though.

[Berkut]

However, the basic idea is not at all stupid, just ignorant.

See? That wasn't so hard.

I would have assumed that if it was possible, practically and economically (and perhaps most importantly, useful), for the dunecoons to affix proximity fuses they would've done so.

I don't see why Ide should catch such shit for merely asking the question, though.

He shouldn't, hence all the shit grumbler caught for throwing so much shit at Ide.

The difference though is that grumbler doesn't care, and Ide does...

[Ideologue]

Not very much.

I'm interested in the subject, though.

[Razgovory]

I don't know how much Proximity fuses cost, though they built millions using 1940's tech.  If they are cheap enough to put on mortar and artillery shells, they probably aren't that expensive.

[Ed Anger]

Not very much.

I'm interested in the subject, though.

Another thing you have got to consider is the ranges. Those towelheads and skinnies are flinging RPG rounds at helos flying a few hundred feet up. A prox fuse is wasted when you can see the target and aim at it.

[Razgovory]

The big problem with RPG-7s is that they aren't very accurate (well that, and they are a really old designed meant to kill 1960's era armored vehicles).  After 100 yards it's pretty much a crap shoot.  The advantage is they are rugged and cheap.  The things are everywhere.  They are not an optimal anti-helicopter weapon, though they are sometimes used against US helicopters.  Using a timed fuse on a thermobaric warhead (probably with something like nails attached to add fragmentation), could possibly increase the chances of damaging a moving helicopter.

[Alcibiades]

However, the basic idea is not at all stupid, just ignorant.

See? That wasn't so hard.

I would have assumed that if it was possible, practically and economically (and perhaps most importantly, useful), for the dunecoons to affix proximity fuses they would've done so.

I don't see why Ide should catch such shit for merely asking the question, though.

Well you did phrase it in a matter of fact way....Kind of like you knew what you were talking about as people are wont to do. 


Made me  , but I don't have the enthusiasm or motivation to do the grumbler/berkut route.

[Ideologue]

Not very much.

I'm interested in the subject, though.

Another thing you have got to consider is the ranges. Those towelheads and skinnies are flinging RPG rounds at helos flying a few hundred feet up. A prox fuse is wasted when you can see the target and aim at it.

I want to think I read something about them modifying the time fuze so that even if they missed, it would at least still explode after only a couple seconds of flight instead of the standard 4.5, at (presumed) helicopter altitude.  Better than nothing?  I also may be misremembering it.

I did find something about a Soviet-made fragmentation round, although it's designed for antipersonnel use and I have no idea if it would be effective against helicopters or if Afghans even have access to them.

[dps]

And were did I mention AA rounds in my post ? 

...Sorry, old chap.  Mistook you for somebody who had a clue...

Don't apologize.  Being mistaken for someone with a clue is a first for Mongers.

[11B4V]

four pages on the RPG-7 and proximity fuse.

[Slargos]

However, the basic idea is not at all stupid, just ignorant.

See? That wasn't so hard.

I would have assumed that if it was possible, practically and economically (and perhaps most importantly, useful), for the dunecoons to affix proximity fuses they would've done so.

I don't see why Ide should catch such shit for merely asking the question, though.

Well you did phrase it in a matter of fact way....Kind of like you knew what you were talking about as people are wont to do. 


Made me  , but I don't have the enthusiasm or motivation to do the grumbler/berkut route.

i did?

ide did.

check yourself before you wreck yourself. 

[CountDeMoney]

check yourself before you wreck yourself. 

That doesn't work with your accent.  Cease and desist.

[Alcibiades]

However, the basic idea is not at all stupid, just ignorant.

See? That wasn't so hard.

I would have assumed that if it was possible, practically and economically (and perhaps most importantly, useful), for the dunecoons to affix proximity fuses they would've done so.

I don't see why Ide should catch such shit for merely asking the question, though.

Well you did phrase it in a matter of fact way....Kind of like you knew what you were talking about as people are wont to do. 


Made me  , but I don't have the enthusiasm or motivation to do the grumbler/berkut route.

i did?

ide did.

check yourself before you wreck yourself. 

Sorry, "he". 

Your avatars look the same at a glance, so I'll continue to mistake you both for the each other.

[Slargos]

However, the basic idea is not at all stupid, just ignorant.

See? That wasn't so hard.

I would have assumed that if it was possible, practically and economically (and perhaps most importantly, useful), for the dunecoons to affix proximity fuses they would've done so.

I don't see why Ide should catch such shit for merely asking the question, though.

Well you did phrase it in a matter of fact way....Kind of like you knew what you were talking about as people are wont to do. 


Made me  , but I don't have the enthusiasm or motivation to do the grumbler/berkut route.

i did?

ide did.

check yourself before you wreck yourself. 

Sorry, "he". 

Your avatars look the same at a glance, so I'll continue to mistake you both for the each other.

Apology accepted. They do look somewhat similar. 

[Josquius]

It was Seal Team Six that went down.

But...the dog is OK...right?


This is pretty big news...quite the coup for the taliban there....