Where does "The South"(tm) begin in the U.S.?

[vinraith]

Draw a line from the northeast corner of Missouri straight across the middles of IL, IN and OH to Pittsburgh and include everything below that line too.

That'd make Cincinnati (and possibly Indianapolis, it'd be close) southern. That's just... silly. Ohio isn't southern, hell northern KY isn't even southern.

I disagree. Southern Ohio/Indiana are as southern as Virginia. More southern than northern Virginia.

Which is why I wouldn't really include northern Virginia in the south anymore, except perhaps by historical tradition.

I mean look at that line you're drawing. You're eliminating half the midwest.

[garbon]

Who cares? All the states near that region are horribly tainted even if not in The South.

[Valmy]

Who cares? All the states near that region are horribly tainted even if not in The South.

Yeah but you feel that way about every state outside of Cali.

[vinraith]

Who cares? All the states near that region are horribly tainted even if not in The South.

Yeah but you feel that way about every state outside of Cali.

Ironic, isn't it?

[garbon]

Yeah but you feel that way about every state outside of Cali.

No I don't.  I know I said it before on old Languish, you got your west coast (+Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico) and your Northeast (starting with New York); then you can pick up a few cities here and there like Chicago and DC.

[dps]

Who cares? All the states near that region are horribly tainted even if not in The South.

Yeah but you feel that way about every state outside of Cali.

Ironic, isn't it?

Yeah, I've always thought it was funny how New Yorkers and Californians pride themselves on being cosmopolitan--and while they are the most cosmopoitan places in the country when it comes to backgroud, when it comes to attitudes, their resident are actually just about the most provential people you can find.

[Caliga]

STATES THAT ARE ENTIRELY PART OF THE SOUTH: Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia

STATES THAT ARE PARTLY SOUTHERN: Texas (east Texas), Oklahoma (eastern Oklahoma), Missouri (Ozarks, bootheel), Illinois (southern i.e. "Little Egypt"), Indiana (southernmost tier of counties), Kentucky (all except for northern Kentucky, around Cincinnati, and debatably Louisville), West Virginia (most of the state south of the panhandle), Virginia (the south and west of the state, plus the Tidewater), Maryland (eastern shore), Delaware (southernmost county), Florida (northern part of the state, from the panhandle across to Jacksonville)

I would certainly argue that Raleigh is in the south, though it may be less "southern" than surrounding areas due to large numbers of Yankee transplants, which is true for a couple of other places in the south, most notably Atlanta.

[Caliga]

Yeah, I've always thought it was funny how New Yorkers and Californians pride themselves on being cosmopolitan--and while they are the most cosmopoitan places in the country when it comes to backgroud, when it comes to attitudes, their resident are actually just about the most provential people you can find.

Well, I can say from experience that people in Boston are definitely more racist than people here. 

[citizen k]

from wikifailia:

the Mason-Dixon Line symbolizes a cultural boundary between the Northern United States and the Southern United States (Dixie)

another factor that defines the South:

[Valmy]

Well, I can say from experience that people in Boston are definitely more racist than people here. 

I saw Glory Road.  Kentuckians are racist Confederate flag wavers.

[DGuller]

The South begins where civilization ends.

[Caliga]

I saw Glory Road.  Kentuckians are racist Confederate flag wavers.

I didn't see that movie, so that makes it not true.

[Caliga]

The South begins where civilization ends.

Another poster proves dps's point.

[jimmy olsen]

Well, I can say from experience that people in Boston are definitely more racist than people here. 

I saw Glory Road.  Kentuckians are racist Confederate flag wavers.

Ironic given that most fought for the Union.

[Valmy]

I saw Glory Road.  Kentuckians are racist Confederate flag wavers.

I didn't see that movie, so that makes it not true.

I presume the reason you didn't see it was because you hate black people.