So we hit the debt limit...

[Ed Anger]

How did the thread derail from government debt to mobility habits?

The usual. The Americans can't stand it when that particular nerve is prodded and so they change the subject. 

Canadian

Eggplant-Canadian.

[Ed Anger]

Which was my point, the choice wasn't between cars and going back to horses, there were other signifcant forms of transport and quite possibly the absolute importance of cars in the future may change.

Who was going to take a train from home to their work every day?  The whole point of adopting the car was to be able to live someplace decent.

Loads of people take a train or a metro or bus to work.

Poors.

[HVC]

How did the thread derail from government debt to mobility habits?

The usual. The Americans can't stand it when that particular nerve is prodded and so they change the subject. 

Canadian

Eggplant-Canadian.

Porkchop-Canadian!

[Ed Anger]

How did the thread derail from government debt to mobility habits?

The usual. The Americans can't stand it when that particular nerve is prodded and so they change the subject. 

Canadian

Eggplant-Canadian.

Porkchop-Canadian!

Slightly overcooked-Canadian. Better?

[HVC]

Loads of people take a train or a metro or bus to work.

Same here... but from average sized cities (by canadian standards) to large cities. and even those in the burbs who commute it in have to drive to the train station first.

[HVC]

Slightly overcooked-Canadian. Better?

i'll take it!

[Valmy]

Same here... but from average sized cities (by canadian standards) to large cities. and even those in the burbs who commute it in the have to drive to the train station first.

Yep.

[Zanza2]

Loads of people take a train or a metro or bus to work.

Same here... but from average sized cities (by canadian standards) to large cities. and even those in the burbs who commute it in have to drive to the train station first.

Eventually, you might have to build denser suburbs that can have a better inner-suburb public transport system.

[Valmy]

Eventually, you might have to build denser suburbs that can have a better inner-suburb public transport system.

Heh kinda late for that here.

Houston and its suburbs comprise 26,000 square kilometers.

[HVC]

Loads of people take a train or a metro or bus to work.

Same here... but from average sized cities (by canadian standards) to large cities. and even those in the burbs who commute it in have to drive to the train station first.

Eventually, you might have to build denser suburbs that can have a better inner-suburb public transport system.

eventually. but we have a lot of land. it's harder to get people to cramp in. people like yards and the like (see BB's home searching tread)

[Slargos]

Loads of people take a train or a metro or bus to work.

Same here... but from average sized cities (by canadian standards) to large cities. and even those in the burbs who commute it in have to drive to the train station first.

Eventually, you might have to build denser suburbs that can have a better inner-suburb public transport system.

Don't be ridiculous. The entire American culture is built on over-consumption. You will never be able to sell that to them.

The only thing that will save them is fusion power and electric cars.

Or flying pigs. Whichever comes first.

[Valmy]

Don't be ridiculous. The entire American culture is built on over-consumption. You will never be able to sell that to them.

I know a real easy way to sell us that: have us go broke.

[HVC]

Don't be ridiculous. The entire American culture is built on over-consumption. You will never be able to sell that to them.

partially. but the home thing is in large part due to land. we have space and lots of it. that leads to far spaced living and the need for cars. Canada has the same population as spain. And while most of it is frozen there is still a lot of unfrozen parts.

[HVC]

Don't be ridiculous. The entire American culture is built on over-consumption. You will never be able to sell that to them.

I know a real easy way to sell us that: have us go broke.

been tried. didn't work

[Valmy]

been tried. didn't work

Nah our consumption is down.  We might even cease to be disgustingly obese if this horrible trend continues.