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So we hit the debt limit...

Started by MadImmortalMan, May 17, 2011, 01:18:23 PM

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Berkut

That was pretty much point in wondering what kind of budget we would be looking at without the Tea Party holding the country hostage. I suspect it would be new taxes on the wealthy that probably do not even cover the increase in spending as the Dems explore that happy land of seeing what they can do with even more than 25% of the GDP.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2011, 12:11:45 PMThe Tea Party has neither the time nor the inclination to explain itself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom it provides, then questions the manner in which it provides it! It'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way.

To whom does the Tea Party provide a blanket of freedom? Malthus? The cartoonist?


Malthus

Quote from: Jacob on August 02, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2011, 12:11:45 PMThe Tea Party has neither the time nor the inclination to explain itself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom it provides, then questions the manner in which it provides it! It'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way.

To whom does the Tea Party provide a blanket of freedom? Malthus? The cartoonist?

I want my freedom blanket.  :(

Rougher and yet more comforting than a security blanket.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

DGuller

I wouldn't call what Tea Party provides a blanket.  It's more of a sheet.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on August 02, 2011, 03:05:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2011, 12:11:45 PMThe Tea Party has neither the time nor the inclination to explain itself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom it provides, then questions the manner in which it provides it! It'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way.

To whom does the Tea Party provide a blanket of freedom? Malthus? The cartoonist?



You can't handle the truth!  :angry:
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Malthus

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

CountDeMoney


HisMajestyBOB

Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

MadImmortalMan

36% of Alabamans are on food stamps.


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CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2011, 09:26:51 PM
36% of Alabamans are on food stamps.

So?  They choose to live that way.  GOD BLESS MURRICA

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2011, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 02, 2011, 09:26:51 PM
36% of Alabamans are on food stamps.

So?  They choose to live that way.  GOD BLESS MURRICA

They chose Alabama. :bleeding:
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on August 02, 2011, 10:55:15 PM
They chose Alabama. :bleeding:

You wouldn't last 10 minutes there, Pinky LaRue.

KRonn

Quote from: derspiess on August 02, 2011, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: KRonn on August 02, 2011, 02:18:11 PM
Yeah, we seem to go in  cycles like that. The Dems took heavy political losses last election for going too far perhaps, and next election it may be the Repubs taking the losses for the same thing.

I'm not sure how that will happen, unless voters can be led to believe that the GOP controls both houses.
Hmmm, maybe so, since the Tea Party faction is just a smaller part of the Repubs. But my thinking is if they become seen as over reaching, and the cause of problems by many voters, there could be a back lash against the Repubs. Although, if they're seen as bringing some needed ideas on restraining govt spending then maybe it'll help the Repubs instead.   :hmm:  Remains to be seen how this budget deal and deals going forward are seen by Independent voters, apart from the left and right of each party who have their agendas anyway.

Berkut

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I don't think there is any question that the TP will be able to lay claim to having forced some restraint on Congress. Whether that is able to counter the perception that they took the country to the brink of disaster doing so remains to be seen. I suspect that the story that "Hey, we had to take drastic action to force an out of control Congress and President to show some restraint" will resonate rather well. And in respects to the Congress, it has the advantage of actually being true.

What I find rather fucked up is that the Republicans are trying really hard to sell the idea that the out of control person was the President. When from where I was sitting, it seemed to me like Obama was the most sane of all the major Dems when it came to the budget. But hurting the President is almost certainly more politically valuable than hurting Congress - after all, could approval ratings for Congress in general get any lower anyway? So this is going to be sold as the TP vs. Obama.
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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.