So we hit the debt limit...

[Neil]

Can we all agree that Berkut going on about tribes impresses no one?

I think it's fairly apt.

[DGuller]

Yikes, The Daily Show tonight delivered a nasty blow to Barrack Obama's empty sack.

[Razgovory]

Can we all agree that Berkut going on about tribes impresses no one?

You and your tribe will certainly agree on that.  No one else will.

Okay, so Americans then.

[grumbler]

Can we all agree that Berkut going on about tribes impresses no one?

You and your tribe will certainly agree on that.  No one else will.

Okay, so Americans then.

Okay. 

[DGuller]

Can we all agree that Berkut going on about tribes impresses no one?

You and your tribe will certainly agree on that.  No one else will.

Okay, so Americans then.

Americans who don't want to destroy America would be more accurate.

[grumbler]

Americans who don't want to destroy America would be more accurate.

Sorry, "American" has already been defined as people who despise America.   You cannot have it back. 

[derspiess]

Maybe stop reading the news for a bit? You seem to be wigging out.

[derspiess]

You know garbon, you know who you remind me of?  A Jew Kapo. Selling out for a few trinkets and extra rations, when in the end you're just going to get the same shitty deal. 

So go ahead, Uncle Teom, keep supporting the politics of the fucks that would put you first up against the wall for being a minority fag.

You're the one suddenly railing against HSBC.

Does it suck that all those people are being put out of work? Yeah, of course it does.  Should it be illegal for HSBC to lay off employees? Should we tax the shit out of HSBC so it doesn't matter if they layoff those employees, as we'll have a safety net to protect them? Is this some rant against capitalism and the state of the world today? I've honestly no idea where your head is at.

It's probably related to some conspiracy involving future Pres. Pal-- er, Bachmann

[derspiess]

i dunno, berkut. i get what you're saying about the whole tribal/group mindset, but i don't think it can apply to condemnations of the tea party. when you get right down to it, at its core, there are a lot of stupid people involved with that movement who have no idea what they're talking about. that they might be accidentally right on some level is no surprise, what with stopped watches and all, but that doesn't mean they're any less ignorant of the world around them

Yeah, they're idiots because they don't know "how things get done" in Washington.  Given how the establishment from both parties managed to screw things up so badly, I'd take my chances on the idiots.

[DontSayBanana]

Actually, a federal parallel to NJ's unemployment system would be helpful: there's a special "Mass Layoff Unit" in NJ Unemployment that steps in anytime a single company is laying off more than 25 employees.  It would be very helpful if there was a federal unit that dealt with interstate companies, reviewing supermassive layoffs and helping minimize additions to state unemployment programs that are already strained to the max (NJ's already had an automatic tax hike triggered by insufficient funds in the UI program- the law forbids a zero balance in the UI account).

[LaCroix]

i wouldn't say that's why they're idiots

[DontSayBanana]

Yeah, they're idiots because they don't know "how things get done" in Washington.  Given how the establishment from both parties managed to screw things up so badly, I'd take my chances on the idiots.

No, they're idiots for obstructing the necessary legislation as well as the bad.  Call that naive or idealistic, I call that dangerous.  We're rushing through patchwork legislation with more flaws than a third-grader's English tests because they wanted to show how hardcore they were.  The legislation from this Congress so far is... well, it's idiotic.

[derspiess]

i wouldn't say that's why they're idiots

You did before re: some lobbyists or constituents you had to deal with.

[LaCroix]

nay, nay. you might have misunderstood me then. the flood of letters and emails received by the tp people were full of anger and just plain.. stupidity. some were mass letters with messages in bold that were like, "VOTE CAP AND TRADE. WE ARE WATCHING YOU," that arrived every day. the others, however, the ones handwritten by people or just generally personalized, were full of comments that contained some really ignorant and misinformed points. they had no idea what they were talking about. many simply vomited buzzphrases/words they heard from glenn beck or whoever else. the voice messages weren't any better. you could watch fox news and know exactly what people would call in the next day to bitch about. there was no critical thinking, no thoughtful arguments, it was all just garbage they kept throwing at you every single day. it got a little depressing

[MadImmortalMan]

Of course. What did you expect?