The Obama "To Make Important Statement" MEGATHREAD

[Neil]

Do you know what their objectives are?

Yes, I do.

Guess what?  They had nothing to do with any of Josephus' lies and histrionics.  'Our civil liberties have been taken away'?  Puh-leeze.  Even if bin Laden and his boys cared (and they don't), that statement is untrue anyways.

[Syt]

(CNN) -- An airline is investigating the removal of two imams from a flight headed to North Carolina, ostensibly because passengers felt uncomfortable with their presence of the pair -- both clad in Islamic attire.

The incident occurred Friday on an Atlantic Southeast Airlines flight from Tennessee to North Carolina and it involved Masudur Rahman and Mohamed Zaghloul were wearing traditional Muslim dress, CNN affiliate WCNC reported.

The two -- who hold high religious positions in the Muslim community -- were headed to North Carolina for a conference on prejudice against Muslims, or Islamaphobia. The meeting is sponsored by the North American Imams Federation.

Rahman, who is a professor at the University of Memphis, told the affiliate that the incident reminded him of the prejudice Rosa Parks faced during the civil rights movement.

"That history I found today in that plane, and it shouldn't happen with any other person," he said.

Atlantic Southeast Airlines, which operated the flight, said the incident is under investigation, and apologized "for any inconvenience that this may have caused."

Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the civil rights group Council on American-Islamic Relations, told CNN the two men contacted his office and said they were told that passengers were uncomfortable with them on the flight.

"They went through security, even went through secondary security, and got on the plane, were taxiing out," he said.

But then, they were taxied back, Hooper said.

"TSA came on and pulled them off and said the pilot was refusing to fly with them because passengers were uncomfortable with them," Hooper said, referring to the Transportation Security Administration.

Hooper said officials re-screened them and found they were no threat.

While officials tried to get the men back on the plane, "the pilot absolutely refused and ultimately took off," Hooper said.

The airlines did not say why the two men were taken off the flight, but said they were given the opportunity to fly on a different flight.

"Atlantic Southeast Airlines flight 5452 from Memphis to Charlotte returned to the gate to allow for additional screening of a passenger and the passenger's companion," the statement said. "We take security and safety very seriously, and the event is currently under investigation."

[Slargos]

Do you know what their objectives are?

Yes, I do.

Guess what?  They had nothing to do with any of Josephus' lies and histrionics.  'Our civil liberties have been taken away'?  Puh-leeze.  Even if bin Laden and his boys cared (and they don't), that statement is untrue anyways.

Every time we spend another dollar on pointless "security" measures, they are one step closer to victory. The ultimate goal of islamic terrorism is the destruction of the west and everything that is good and holy. If we destroy ourselves with unwise spending and the nurturing of parasites, then all the better. This multi-trillion dollar spat was started by a couple of guys with box cutters. Talk about efficiency in spending..

[grumbler]

And we've become a bit more like them, cheering and shouting USA when some Arab dies, reminiscent of what they do when they kill an American pilot.

Why are you more like them?  Do you think you have become stupid over time, or just have decided to allow your emotions to overcome your common sense?  It seems to me that whining about changes to yourself that you could reverse through some self-discipline is pretty stupid and self-centered.  I don't cheer or shout when an Arab dies, and it isn't hard.

[Slargos]

And we've become a bit more like them, cheering and shouting USA when some Arab dies, reminiscent of what they do when they kill an American pilot.

Why are you more like them?  Do you think you have become stupid over time, or just have decided to allow your emotions to overcome your common sense?  It seems to me that whining about changes to yourself that you could reverse through some self-discipline is pretty stupid and self-centered.  I don't cheer or shout when an Arab dies, and it isn't hard.

Is chuckling ok? 

[Admiral Yi]

And we've become a bit more like them, cheering and shouting USA when some Arab dies, reminiscent of what they do when they kill an American pilot.

Wake me up when crowds in Times Square start applauding the death of Muslim civilians.

[CountDeMoney]

The two -- who hold high religious positions in the Muslim community -- were headed to North Carolina for a conference on prejudice against Muslims, or Islamaphobia. The meeting is sponsored by the North American Imams Federation.

That's a big LOL right there.

Rahman, who is a professor at the University of Memphis, told the affiliate that the incident reminded him of the prejudice Rosa Parks faced during the civil rights movement.

Rosa Parks never flew her bus into office buildings.  Sorry suckers, but worship your Jew-hating moongod on Amtrak.

[Caliga]

Rosa Parks never flew her bus into office buildings.

How cool would that have looked though!

[Josephus]

And we've become a bit more like them, cheering and shouting USA when some Arab dies, reminiscent of what they do when they kill an American pilot.

Wake me up when crowds in Times Square start applauding the death of Muslim civilians.

Whatever. I'm not one of those who cared that Bin Laden was killed or anything.
The only thing was when I saw people waving flags and shouting U-S-A, at first I thought they won the World Cup or something.

[The Brain]

Rosa Parks never flew her bus into office buildings.

How cool would that have looked though!

Busses aren't designed to fly and it is unlikely that Rosa Parks of all people would manage to overcome gravity.

[Ed Anger]

Silly foreigner. We'd never celebrate the World Cup.

[dps]

Silly foreigner. We'd never celebrate the World Cup.

Or win it, I suppose.

Eh, figured I get that one in before one of the Euroweenies did.

I was going to point out that all of Josephus' points were counter-factual, but then I remembered that he's in Britian, so I guess he does have a valid point about civil liberties.

[Admiral Yi]

Whatever. I'm not one of those who cared that Bin Laden was killed or anything.
The only thing was when I saw people waving flags and shouting U-S-A, at first I thought they won the World Cup or something.

Sure, and every time Allied troops in WWII cheered the downing of a Stuka or the sinking of a Uboat they became a little more like Hitler and contributed to the eventual Nazi victory.

[Slargos]

Whatever. I'm not one of those who cared that Bin Laden was killed or anything.
The only thing was when I saw people waving flags and shouting U-S-A, at first I thought they won the World Cup or something.

Sure, and every time Allied troops in WWII cheered the downing of a Stuka or the sinking of a Uboat they became a little more like Hitler and contributed to the eventual Nazi victory.

If the threat of the Amerikabomber had caused the retooling of all tank and aircraft factories in order to start producing a hedgehog of AA guns on the American continent, would it have been a problem for the american war effort? 

[The Minsky Moment]

I mean, he may be dead, but he still won the war.

His objective was to overthrough the Saudi monarchy, and establish a new Islamic caliphate based on Salafi principles.

I would say he is still a few lengths short of victory.