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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Josephus

FWIW, the Minister who introduced the HST in Ontario lost his seat  :lol:

Anyways, in the final analyis, Ontario will probably go to the polls again before the four years are up, and Hudak, the conservative, looks pretty good to win the next one. He only needs a 3-4 percent shift his way, and odds are with the economy likely to stall, he may get it.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Grey Fox

Quote from: viper37 on October 07, 2011, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 07, 2011, 06:27:29 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 06, 2011, 10:14:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2011, 08:54:18 PM
Well, it looks like people don't hate the HST after all.

Only the idiots on the left coast do.

Why should I hate the HST?
you're on the rigth coast, technically :P

For B-C, I believe it was badly implemented and they ended up paying more for their products.  Asking the Feds to raise the "rich people" tax levels was ok, but paying themselves more taxes, I suppose they tought they weren't rich enough for that :P

:lol: I saw the word left & I was suddenly appealled.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on October 07, 2011, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 06, 2011, 10:14:01 PMOnly the idiots on the left coast do.

Something we agree on :cheers:

Meh, one of the few things we disagree on is the rather esoteric notion of the definition of socialism and socialist organizations.

Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 07, 2011, 11:00:35 AMMeh, one of the few things we disagree on is the rather esoteric notion of the definition of socialism and socialist organizations.

Really? Seems like about half the time I say anything, you go all gung ho lawyer style disagreeing on me.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that....

Malthus

In honour of you two, I resolve to henceforth label random things as "socialist" and blame the resulting confusion on one, or perhaps both, of you.  :P
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

crazy canuck

Quote from: Malthus on October 07, 2011, 11:08:07 AM
In honour of you two, I resolve to henceforth label random things as "socialist" and blame the resulting confusion on one, or perhaps both, of you.  :P

Commie!

Jacob

Quote from: Malthus on October 07, 2011, 11:08:07 AM
In honour of you two, I resolve to henceforth label random things as "socialist" and blame the resulting confusion on one, or perhaps both, of you.  :P

That's not very socialist of you.

Malthus

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Barrister

I'm thinking of having some socialism for lunch...
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BuddhaRhubarb

Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2011, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 06, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
my 2 cents re: insite decision... It's interesting that a lot of the language of the decision is stuff I was laughed at here on Languish over earlier this year. "More good than harm" is actually an important concept. Who'd a thunk it. :p
Maybe you missed your calling.  You could have been slimy, lawyering scum and acted against the interests of society and the Canadian people.

but then I likely would have been against the decision, so that doesn't work for me. I have my own drummer, as I keep reminding you. I exist outside your simple binary system of thinking. 

I recently watched Ken Burns' new "Prohibition" doc. very current in it's appeal, as the whole thing mirrors modern ideas of punishment only as the right's idea of a war on drugs, much like the war on booze back in that time.

Prohibition was wrong for booze, it's also wrong for other drugs..... of course unless it's big pharma, then it's okay to be a druggie. If you could get smack from Pfizer this wouldn't even be a discussion anywhere.

world needs scarecrows though. so we are where we are.
:p

viper37

Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 07, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
Prohibition was wrong for booze, it's also wrong for other drugs..... of course unless it's big pharma, then it's okay to be a druggie. If you could get smack from Pfizer this wouldn't even be a discussion anywhere.
can you tell me what kind of drugs big pharma sells, freely available for anyone, that is equivalent to heroin, speed, meta-amphetamines and magical mushrooms?
I'd like to know, I'm sure I could find a way to turn this in a profit, buying legit, selling illegal :)
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Barrister

Quote from: viper37 on October 07, 2011, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 07, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
Prohibition was wrong for booze, it's also wrong for other drugs..... of course unless it's big pharma, then it's okay to be a druggie. If you could get smack from Pfizer this wouldn't even be a discussion anywhere.
can you tell me what kind of drugs big pharma sells, freely available for anyone, that is equivalent to heroin, speed, meta-amphetamines and magical mushrooms?
I'd like to know, I'm sure I could find a way to turn this in a profit, buying legit, selling illegal :)

Lots of people already doing that with oxycontin...
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Malthus

Quote from: viper37 on October 07, 2011, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 07, 2011, 12:49:52 PM
Prohibition was wrong for booze, it's also wrong for other drugs..... of course unless it's big pharma, then it's okay to be a druggie. If you could get smack from Pfizer this wouldn't even be a discussion anywhere.
can you tell me what kind of drugs big pharma sells, freely available for anyone, that is equivalent to heroin, speed, meta-amphetamines and magical mushrooms?
I'd like to know, I'm sure I could find a way to turn this in a profit, buying legit, selling illegal :)

Seriously, prescription drug abuse is on a similar order to illegal drug abuse in significance.

The silliness lies in assuming that "big pharma" is enouraging such abuse. 
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius