EU3 - ready for play yet?

[dps]

I'm not sure just how much this might be changed in HttT, but before that expansion, even if you win another war and force them to give up the cores on your provinces, they were likely to get them back sooner or later by random event. 

As for force-vassalizing them, it doesn't matter much how big or how small you are, what matters is that they have to be big enough that the force-vassalize peace option is worth no more than 100% war score.  I don't remember exactly, but I think they probably need to lose at least a couple more provinces before you can force-vassalize them.  Of course, you could take a couple of provinces that you don't want and then sell them to Wales or Cornwall.  That means yet another war to force-vassalize them, of course, but at that point they won't be so tough anymore.

Getting them in an alliance will work in theory, but there are some problems.  First, it'll take a good bit of money to get relations up to where they have even a chance to agree.  That's not too big a problem, but once you do get relations up, it'll still be impossible to get them to agree it either you or they have too many allies already.  And if you do get an alliance with them, if you declare war on another country too soon, they'll just break the alliance.  And even after that, they may break it at some point for no apparant reason.

Again, all of that is pre-HttT.

[barkdreg]

The cultural unity decision will ony remove the cores of countries that don't exist yet.
Cultural unity on Northumberland will remove the Northumberlan core but not the English core. Also you don't have to wait for an event to fire, just get two magistrates and enacht the decision.

[Solmyr]

It also requires NF.

[Kleves]

BTW, does EU: Rome still suck?

[barkdreg]

Probably.

[garbon]

Given how exciting it's wiki article is, I'd guess yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis:_Rome

[Josephus]

Given how exciting it's wiki article is, I'd guess yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis:_Rome

Can you summarize...I really don't have time to read all that.

[DGuller]

The reception section is really telling. 

[Ideologue]

The reception section is really telling. 

It really does sum up the gameplay experience.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I just installed EU Complete.  Give me play tips.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Tried playing Qara Koyunlu. Hordes suck. I hate them.
And the Fun2EU mod is pretty fun, making things more detailed and balanced (especially the NI) while avoiding the tons of restrictive and irritating crap that Magna Mundi adds.

[Shade]

so I suppose that we are never to play an MP of this game again...

[Solmyr]

So, any current tips for MP warfare? I'm starting a MP game on Sunday and wouldn't mind some help from pros. I'll be playing France, we also have England, Spain, Austria and Venice!Italy as players.

[jimmy olsen]

I just installed EU Complete.  Give me play tips.

Is that with Divine Wind or not?

[Darth Wagtaros]

I have no fucking clue.  I haven't played EU of any brand in years, and couldn't get into Vicky. So just tell me what to do and stop asking questions.