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Queequeg

Serenity. The Reapers are the stupidest enemy in sci find history.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Viking

Quote from: Queequeg on April 17, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
Serenity. The Reapers are the stupidest enemy in sci find history.

I remember there being "Reivers" in Serenity, don't remember any "Reapers".
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Ideologue

Quote from: Viking on April 17, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on April 17, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
Serenity. The Reapers are the stupidest enemy in sci find history.

I remember there being "Reivers" in Serenity, don't remember any "Reapers".

I remember there being Reavers. :P

And, no, they're not.  Most zombie concepts are much stupider.  Reavers don't violate fundamental biochemistry, if not thermodynamics itself.

The idea that the Reavers could work as a society while being pharmacologically driven to profound self-destructive and antisocial behavior is a bit of a reach, but I'm fine with some details being left out, like they could smell their own or something.  The film is amazing; like with Star Trek before it, the movie proved far better than the series.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Josquius

Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 17, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on April 17, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
Serenity. The Reapers are the stupidest enemy in sci find history.

I remember there being "Reivers" in Serenity, don't remember any "Reapers".

I remember there being Reavers. :P

And, no, they're not.  Most zombie concepts are much stupider.  Reavers don't violate fundamental biochemistry, if not thermodynamics itself.

The idea that the Reavers could work as a society while being pharmacologically driven to profound self-destructive and antisocial behavior is a bit of a reach, but I'm fine with some details being left out, like they could smell their own or something.  The film is amazing; like with Star Trek before it, the movie proved far better than the series.

No way.
Bare in mind the movie rushed out all the best plot points that were going to be used in the series too.
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Ideologue

That's right.  So instead of teasing them to the point that I didn't care, they wrapped 'em up in a nice, straightforward, higher-budgeted package that also included a phenomenal performance from Chiwetel Ejiofor, and if he hadn't available to do guest spots on Firefly, we'd all have lost something important, as a culture, indeed, as aspecies.  A+
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
that also included a phenomenal performance from Chiwetel Ejiofor,

Excellent actor that for some reason still seems to stay below the radar.  Never turns in a poor performance.

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2013, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
that also included a phenomenal performance from Chiwetel Ejiofor,

Excellent actor that for some reason still seems to stay below the radar.  Never turns in a poor performance.
+1
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Queequeg

Are the Reivers  sapient? How do they manage to pilot spacecraft? How do they replenish numbers such that thry can throw men away? It's insane. Also what the fuck is it with Whedon and 17 year old girls?

The casting is the only decent thing in the movie.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Queequeg

Why do people live on shitty rocks in Victorian clothes and raise cattle when there are biogels that can instantly heal huge gashes in a woman's back?  Why is the Alliance a union of the Chinese and Americans beyond Weyland-Yutani references? Why are robotics so primitive when space travel is so advanced? Why is it so hard to send a video across space when Fillion can flirt with Baccarin instantly across the galaxy? Why are the same people who shat on Prometheus defending this?
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

11B4V

Quote from: Queequeg on April 18, 2013, 01:01:45 AM
Why do people live on shitty rocks in Victorian clothes and raise cattle when there are biogels that can instantly heal huge gashes in a woman's back?  Why is the Alliance a union of the Chinese and Americans beyond Weyland-Yutani references? Why are robotics so primitive when space travel is so advanced? Why is it so hard to send a video across space when Fillion can flirt with Baccarin instantly across the galaxy? Why are the same people who shat on Prometheus defending this?

I shat on neither and liked both.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Viking

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2013, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
that also included a phenomenal performance from Chiwetel Ejiofor,

Excellent actor that for some reason still seems to stay below the radar.  Never turns in a poor performance.

Probably because people can't spell his name.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

Don't be raciss.  He's either under "C" or "E" in the Rolodex. 


Anyway, best trailer released for "Man of Steel" yet--

http://youtu.be/T6DJcgm3wNY

Ideologue

Quote from: Queequeg on April 18, 2013, 12:01:07 AM
How do they replenish numbers such that thry can throw men away?

QuoteAlso what the fuck is it with Whedon and 17 year old girls?

Maybe when you're older, sweetie.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Syt

Quote from: 11B4V on April 17, 2013, 10:49:31 AM
Quote from: Syt on April 17, 2013, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on April 17, 2013, 01:21:02 AM
Movie is still shit though.

Can you elaborate on your opinion, please?
Yes

First off the gun fight scenes were ridiculous and over done. The whole story line was flat and uninteresting. The humor was well not funny, just over done in a blah way. Period weapons were not correct. I think he missed an opportunity here.

Fair enough. I went in expecting a modern take of 8unrealistic) Spaghetti westerns and wasn't disappointed. :)
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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Ideologue

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Quote from: Queequeg on April 18, 2013, 01:01:45 AM
Why do people live on shitty rocks in Victorian clothes and raise cattle when there are biogels that can instantly heal huge gashes in a woman's back?

Quote...the Alliance a union of the Chinese and Americans...

Is this really that hard? :)

QuoteWhy are robotics so primitive when space travel is so advanced?

Irrelevant.  Show's not about robots.  Also you could fuck Mr. Universe's robot.  That's advanced enough.

QuoteWhy is it so hard to send a video across space when Fillion can flirt with Baccarin instantly across the galaxy?

Mr. Universe's channel is really popular.  Nobody cares about Mal's vlog.

QuoteWhy are the same people who shat on Prometheus defending this?

Because while Firefly/Serenity is not without the flaws in its universe, no SFal universe is airtight.  Star Trek is so full of holes a whole industry is devoted to filling them with terrible prose.  Star Wars as well.

And let's look at a couple of self-contained films:

In Gattaca, given what actually occurs in the eugenic selection process as fully and explicitly explained in the film, there is actually no way to determine a selected baby from an unselected baby, because they're all ultimately naturally conceived, so the Valid/Invalid distinction is 100% false and impossible, even if employers would give a shit where the genes for Vincent's incredible intelligence and determination and Ethan Hawkey good looks came from, which I find unlikely since Irene's employment proves they accept people with heart conditions at Gattaca, just not in their astronaut program.

In Moon, Lunar Industries spends billions of dollars on mentally unstable clones to whom they give total control over their operations, and who could catastrophically affect their profits, not to mention the Earth's energy supply, if they discovered their true nature.  Indeed, they could even start Harsh Mistressing Earth because they gave them a mass driver, leading to a tort death sentence for the company on top of the mass casualties.

But BFD.  The characters act logically within the realities of their universe, even if you can nitpick and determine those realities to be implausible.

This is why Prometheus failed.  Almost none of the actions in Prometheus make any sense, even within that reality.  I won't go into the details on this because they're patent.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)