TV/Movies Megathread

[Darth Wagtaros]

Roland Emmerich has found a new way to destroy earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hsxh_QNi0

So the moon is a transformer?

Lunatron?

[FunkMonk]

Roland Emmerich has found a new way to destroy earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hsxh_QNi0

So the moon is a transformer?

This looks incredible 

[The Brain]

Roland Emmerich has found a new way to destroy earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hsxh_QNi0

So the moon is a transformer?

Always has been.

[Sheilbh]

Very reassured that the Guardian loved Dune with a 5 star review - I really like Villeneuve but was panicking that it might not be good (not just because of Chalamet, but partly ):
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/sep/03/dune-review-denis-villenueve-venice-film-festival

Also intrigued at the 5 star review for the Di biopic

[Savonarola]

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

On this viewing it struck me that this was essentially a Godzilla movie (or maybe King Kong since it has a dame as the sidekick rather than annoying children) disguised as a super-hero movie.  It even has the army as an antagonist.

It's amusing that Sam Elliot was the only actor to carry over from Ang Lee's Hulk and then the only actor in this movie (other than the cameos) to be in any other Marvel Movie.  The man is a survivor.

[Barrister]

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

On this viewing it struck me that this was essentially a Godzilla movie (or maybe King Kong since it has a dame as the sidekick rather than annoying children) disguised as a super-hero movie.  It even has the army as an antagonist.

It's amusing that Sam Elliot was the only actor to carry over from Ang Lee's Hulk and then the only actor in this movie (other than the cameos) to be in any other Marvel Movie.  The man is a survivor.

In Marvel's "What If...?" Episode 3 they revisit scenes from this movie - but Banner/Hulk is voiced by Mark Ruffalo, and Banner is animated to look like Ruffalo, not Norton.  It's a bit odd.

And double-checking with IMDB, Sam Elliott was not in Incredible Hulk (2008).  The roll he played in Ang Lee's Hulk was played by William Hurt.

[Savonarola]

And double-checking with IMDB, Sam Elliott was not in Incredible Hulk (2008).  The roll he played in Ang Lee's Hulk was played by William Hurt.

My mistake

[grumbler]

Very reassured that the Guardian loved Dune with a 5 star review - I really like Villeneuve but was panicking that it might not be good (not just because of Chalamet, but partly ):
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/sep/03/dune-review-denis-villenueve-venice-film-festival

Also intrigued at the 5 star review for the Di biopic

The better the movie is, alas, the more irritating it is going to be that it will never be completed.

I did enjoy this part of the review, because it sort of encapsulates a trend among previewers of the film:

...just as the novel itself has claimed some high-profile casualties. Alejandro Jodorowsky tried and failed to bring it to the screen. David Lynch's 1984 version was widely dismissed as a dud, while a TV miniseries that aired in 2000 appears to have since turned to dust.

None of the previewers and reviewers can quite figure out how to dismiss the 2000 miniseries 9which was actually quite successful and is still the second-best-rated show SFC ever aired).  They need to, because the agreed-upon lore seems to be that this would be the first successful adaptation of Dune if it works, but it is hard because it isn't true.  Dune 2021 would be the first successful film adaptation, but that doesn't seem to be enough.

I'm not sure why there was so much widespread doubt about Timothée Chalamet.  He's only 25 but already has an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor, and he's been at least nominated for major awards in at least half of his adult performances.

[The Brain]

The King was crap, but that wasn't his fault. Call Me By Your Name was awesome.

[Sheilbh]

The better the movie is, alas, the more irritating it is going to be that it will never be completed.

I know. I loved Blade Runner 2049 but I don't think it made any money

None of the previewers and reviewers can quite figure out how to dismiss the 2000 miniseries 9which was actually quite successful and is still the second-best-rated show SFC ever aired).  They need to, because the agreed-upon lore seems to be that this would be the first successful adaptation of Dune if it works, but it is hard because it isn't true.  Dune 2021 would be the first successful film adaptation, but that doesn't seem to be enough.

This may just be a UK reviewer - I wanted to watch the miniseries but I don't think it was ever played here and it didn't attract a big sort of cultural following. When it was announced it seemed like event TV but then from my understanding wasn't (like say GoT was later or Battlestar Galactica). So even if it was successful commercially it hasn't left much of an impact in terms of how you imagine Dune - while Lynch's Dune and even Jodorowsky's kind of have.

I'm not sure why there was so much widespread doubt about Timothée Chalamet.  He's only 25 but already has an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor, and he's been at least nominated for major awards in at least half of his adult performances.

I'm with Brain. I think he was excellent in Call Me By Your Name and good in Little Women too. I've not been particularly convinced by his other turns. I think he can be realy good just a little dubious/biased against him

But I think he's probably going to have a very good year between this and the Wes Anderson film.

[FunkMonk]

Ackshully, The King was good and Timothee is good too.

[Neil]

Saw Shang-Chi.  It was a bit of a different take on the Marvel formula, which was interesting.  The plot seems a little more Hong Kong-y than your typical 'Person with great abilities learns to care about others and answers the call to become a hero' that is most of Marvel's intro movies. 

I feel like the character that I ended up finding most interesting was the villain though.  Whenever he was on the screen, I was captivated. 

[viper37]

...just as the novel itself has claimed some high-profile casualties. Alejandro Jodorowsky tried and failed to bring it to the screen. David Lynch's 1984 version was widely dismissed as a dud, while a TV miniseries that aired in 2000 appears to have since turned to dust.

None of the previewers and reviewers can quite figure out how to dismiss the 2000 miniseries 9which was actually quite successful and is still the second-best-rated show SFC ever aired).  They need to, because the agreed-upon lore seems to be that this would be the first successful adaptation of Dune if it works, but it is hard because it isn't true.  Dune 2021 would be the first successful film adaptation, but that doesn't seem to be enough.

he is right though that you can't find it anywhere in a decent format for modern ages.  the DVD version looks like crap on modern tvs.

I remember some fans seemed to dislike it, but I enjoyed both parts.

[grumbler]

The TV version of Dune was a TV version.  It had a TV budget, was shot on videotape, and had TV CGI.  Even so, it's better than the Lynch version.

My biggest complaints about Dune 2021 is that it doesn't even cover the interesting parts of the book, and trying to reassemble the cast and crew three or four years after the first movie was shot is going to be impossible.  Huge spurned money opportunity.

Hollywood could spring for the first two Twilight movies sight unseen, but couldn't cough up similar bucks for two Dune movies.  Unbefuckinglievable.

[Darth Wagtaros]

The TV version of Dune was a TV version.  It had a TV budget, was shot on videotape, and had TV CGI.  Even so, it's better than the Lynch version.

My biggest complaints about Dune 2021 is that it doesn't even cover the interesting parts of the book, and trying to reassemble the cast and crew three or four years after the first movie was shot is going to be impossible.  Huge spurned money opportunity.

Hollywood could spring for the first two Twilight movies sight unseen, but couldn't cough up similar bucks for two Dune movies.  Unbefuckinglievable.

I liked the TV movie.  Most people I talk to hated it, and I think it was better than the David Lynch version.  Even the costuming was less latex and more realistic.


Shang-Chi was good. I didn't expect much, but I wound up enjoying it.