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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Grey Fox

Quote from: HVC on February 02, 2017, 09:26:37 AM
Couldn't sleep so I watched Riverdale. I... what the hell people.

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HVC

Don't judge me, I random netflixed.
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Shoulda watched Room in Rome instead.
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Quote from: HVC on February 02, 2017, 09:26:37 AM
Couldn't sleep so I watched Riverdale. I... what the hell people.
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Habbaku

Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2017, 09:23:35 AM
I thought the pig one was just transparently playiing to the viewers revulsion. OK, I am appalled...but so what? If I want to just watch something to be grossed out about, I can watch SAW.

The second one was definitely much better in that there was a clear attempt to actually say something about society, but it wasn't executed particularly well. I just didn't care all that much about either character, but I thought the plot was a neat idea.

:huh:  The pig one had a pretty clear attempt at saying something about society.  The only way the pig one was about revulsion was if you watched only the last five minutes.
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Berkut

Quote from: Habbaku on February 02, 2017, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2017, 09:23:35 AM
I thought the pig one was just transparently playiing to the viewers revulsion. OK, I am appalled...but so what? If I want to just watch something to be grossed out about, I can watch SAW.

The second one was definitely much better in that there was a clear attempt to actually say something about society, but it wasn't executed particularly well. I just didn't care all that much about either character, but I thought the plot was a neat idea.

:huh:  The pig one had a pretty clear attempt at saying something about society.  The only way the pig one was about revulsion was if you watched only the last five minutes.

Nah, the last five minutes is just the answer to the question of "Will he really do it". The revulsion is spending 45 minutes wondering if he will or not, and imagining and re-imagining it as it inevitably tries to create this scenario where he is forced into it....said scenario being a bit ridiculous as well.
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frunk

My problem with the pig one was that it felt like a bad episode of some political drama series.  There wasn't anything in it that required or reflected any kind of different approach to technology or society's interaction with it.  It was just a kidnapping with a ridiculous demand.

Compare that to the third season episode with Bronn that did the whole idea of forcing people to do things against their will much better.

garbon

Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2017, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on February 02, 2017, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2017, 09:23:35 AM
I thought the pig one was just transparently playiing to the viewers revulsion. OK, I am appalled...but so what? If I want to just watch something to be grossed out about, I can watch SAW.

The second one was definitely much better in that there was a clear attempt to actually say something about society, but it wasn't executed particularly well. I just didn't care all that much about either character, but I thought the plot was a neat idea.

:huh:  The pig one had a pretty clear attempt at saying something about society.  The only way the pig one was about revulsion was if you watched only the last five minutes.

Nah, the last five minutes is just the answer to the question of "Will he really do it". The revulsion is spending 45 minutes wondering if he will or not, and imagining and re-imagining it as it inevitably tries to create this scenario where he is forced into it....said scenario being a bit ridiculous as well.

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Quote from: Berkut on February 02, 2017, 09:23:35 AM
I thought the pig one was just transparently playiing to the viewers revulsion. OK, I am appalled...but so what? If I want to just watch something to be grossed out about, I can watch SAW.

The second one was definitely much better in that there was a clear attempt to actually say something about society, but it wasn't executed particularly well. I just didn't care all that much about either character, but I thought the plot was a neat idea.

yes, i agree, the problem with the second one was the characters.
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Josephus

Quote from: frunk on February 02, 2017, 03:10:17 PM
My problem with the pig one was that it felt like a bad episode of some political drama series.  There wasn't anything in it that required or reflected any kind of different approach to technology or society's interaction with it.

Oh, is that the concept of the series? Hadn't realized yet.
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mongers

Enjoyed the last two episodes of 'Sherlock', they had a nice cinematic quality and length to them.  :bowler:
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Capetan Mihali

Voyage in Italy.  A nice defense, visually, but also very didactically, of wacky Italia and its curious Catholic customs for Northern European squares, but I've seen better Rossellini.  Like the last installment of this film series, Europe '51.  Or the previous, Rome, Open City.
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jimmy olsen

Weird, Shaq is pretty damn distinct. How the fuck can you mix him up with Sinbad.

Though I will admit that I misremembered the name of the movie as Shazam.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/12/22/sinbad_never_made_a_genie_movie_called_shazaam_but_that_isn_t_stopping_people.html
QuoteSinbad Never Made a Genie Movie Called Shazaam, and People Aren't Taking the News Well

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Remember that classic '90s movie where Sinbad played a genie? If you think you do, you're wrong. In an article for the New Statesman, Amelia Tait lays out the strange case of Shazaam, which starred the famous comedian as "an incompetent genie who granted wishes to two young children." Reddit has become home to hundreds of people with vivid memories of the film, right down to the details of individual scenes, and elaborate personal histories where they recall rewinding the tape to replay favorite scenes over and over again.

There's just one problem: There never was a movie called Shazaam, nor has Sinbad ever played a genie. There was, of course, a 1996 movie called Kazaam in which Shaquille O'Neal plays a genie who grants wishes to a young boy, but should you suggest to the Shazaam-ites that they've simply confused one for the other, they apparently don't take it well. (They would, of course, never confuse one large black male 1990s celebrity for another, because that would be, you know, racist.) A Redditor identified as Carl (names were changed for the piece) says he specifically remembers avoiding Kazaam because it looked like "a rip-off" of the totally real and not-at-all-made-up Shazaam, while 52-year-old video store employee "Don" remembers ordering two copies of Sinbad's movie and only one of Shaq's for the store.

The New Statesman article delves into the phenomenon of false memory and the theories that have propagated on the internet about why Shazaam—which, again, is a movie that absolutely, 100 percent existed—has completely disappeared from the face of the earth and how "Shazaam truthers" continue to believe despite the absence of a single piece of a concrete evidence that their memories are reliable.

So how are they taking it? A dip into Reddit since the article posted shows true believers wrestling with their faith.

For beowulf_cluster, the article poses more troubling questions about the nature of knowledge itself:

Just ran across this article. I don't know what to say. I was thinking about Shazaam only a couple days ago. Now I find out it never existed, and I'm getting paranoid about what other false memories are in my head...
It's 5am and I think I need a stiff drink.


Sonofbooey, for one, isn't buying it.

I have memories of the movie, I remember watching it at my friend Bobbys house and him repeating catch phrases from the movie for weeks.

When the article gets to the part where it describes the movie cover, I was able to envision and describe before reading the articles description.

Also, the idea that it's people thinking of the movie Shazaam doesn't hold true for me, Im acutely aware of both movies.

I took a while to read through the Internet to see if this a fake news article or something, this is really bizarre to me.


The story is fascinating and a deeply weird, but the reference to "fake news" gives it a troubling resonance. If people would sooner believe there's a vast conspiracy to efface the existence of an innocuous children's movie from the 1990s than admit they might have remembered something wrong, what hope is there of convincing them they're wrong about things that actually matter?

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garbon

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Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 03, 2017, 09:41:25 AM
Weird, Shaq is pretty damn distinct. How the fuck can you mix him up with Sinbad.

Similar acting skills.
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