Languish Here I Stand (9?) Thread

[ehrie]

I'm going to do the New World now.

[ehrie]

England: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 6

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Message from England:
Hapsburg Colonies

+1 Card, Hispanola eaten by natives

England: Die roll request
Request: 6-sided die x 4

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Message from England:
English Colonies

Galleon gets me a card. NE on the other.

[Delirium]

This is a good illustration of one of the few rules in HIS that really doesn't make sense. The excess units in Calais are not allowed to winter in Brussels, but have to go to Valladolid instead, taking attrition. Now, units in an unfortified space adjacent to two fortified spaces are allowed to split to those fortresses without having to go the capital. No logic, but at least I was aware of it beforehand.

Fleets to Messina and Corunna.

[Tamas]

My king's stack goes to Paris, my other leader and all units in excess of 4 in Milan go to Paris as well

[ulmont]

Papal Winter:

2 mercs from Florence to Rome
2 regulars from Turin to Florence
1+1 from Turin to Ravenna

I don't think you can do this.  Land units in unfortified spaces have to return to the home capital or to the nearest fortified space.  Modena is the closest fortified space, and it's full, so everything from Turin has to go to Rome.  I'm guessing at that point you'd leave the mercs in Florence, but correct me if I am wrong.

[ulmont]

This is a good illustration of one of the few rules in HIS that really doesn't make sense. The excess units in Calais are not allowed to winter in Brussels, but have to go to Valladolid instead, taking attrition.

Why would these units take attrition?  You're allied with france, and paths can be traced over any number of sea zones without needing a friendly unit, so Calais -> Valladolid should be a no-brainer?

[ulmont]

Sent out a winter file.  Papal winter modified as noted above, and no attrition to the Hapsburgs as I read the rules (correct me, again).

Hand size calculations:

Ottomans: 5 (keys) + 2 (saved) + 0 (sultan) + 0 (bonus) = 7.
Hapsburgs: 5 (keys) + 0 (saved) + 0 (charles) + 1 (bonus) = 6.
England: 3 (keys) + 0 (saved) + 1 (henry) + 1 (bonus) = 5.
France: 3 (keys) + 0 (saved) + 0 (henry) + 0 (bonus) = 3.
Papacy: 4 (keys) + 1 (saved) + 1 (paul iii) + 0 (bonus) = 6.
Protestants: 4 (electorates) + 1 (saved) + 0 (calvin) + 0 (bonus) = 5.

[ulmont]

forgot to nuke the alliances, though, in the winter file.

[Berkut]

Papal Winter:

2 mercs from Florence to Rome
2 regulars from Turin to Florence
1+1 from Turin to Ravenna

I don't think you can do this.  Land units in unfortified spaces have to return to the home capital or to the nearest fortified space.  Modena is the closest fortified space, and it's full, so everything from Turin has to go to Rome.  I'm guessing at that point you'd leave the mercs in Florence, but correct me if I am wrong.

Sure I can. Look at the order. You can move units from a fortified space to home.

So the units from Florence go to Rome.
Then the units from Turin need to go home, and they have to go to the nearest fortified space that is not already full - so Modena is full, so they can go to Florence. Once Florence becomes full, they can then go Ravenna.

They go to the nearest unfortified space that can hold them, or to the capital.

[Berkut]

Also, during the mandatory events phase, I will place a Jesuit college in Bristol and Dijon

[ulmont]

Then the units from Turin need to go home, and they have to go to the nearest fortified space that is not already full - so Modena is full, so they can go to Florence. Once Florence becomes full, they can then go Ravenna.

I don't read the rule as allowing that option.  I read it as allowing you to stack the nearest fortified space to 4 and then requiring any excess to be sent to the capital.

[Berkut]

Hmmm, you might be right - it does seem to suggest that the option is the nearest fort, then home if the nearerst fort(s) is full.

2. Return Units: Now review all land units in unfortified spaces
and in fortified spaces not controlled by their major power. These
units must either:
• Return to their home capital, or
• Return to the nearest fortified space controlled by their power
(but not if that would put more than 4 land units in that space).
The nearest space is always computed using a direct path to the
destination without regard to which power controls any of the
intervening spaces.

[ehrie]

England: Play Card as Event
#15: 2 / Society of Jesus

Message from England:
Since it's turn 7, this gets resolved now.

As Berkut already pointed out, this needs to be placed.

[Habbaku]

Let diplomacy begin, then.

If only to light a fire under this game once more, I suggest we set a deadline for diplomacy to end by Friday.

[Berkut]

Some general observations:

The Ottomans are now the power that needs to be beat down a little bit. I think I can hold the Protestants off, if I am left alone to do so.

The Hapsburgs need to turn and either retake Vienna or something like that. It is very possible that the Ottomans DOW the Pope in an effort to get some keys in Italy. Maybe not though, hard to say. He can probably win just by piracy, so we can't really be passive against him.