[PC]Civilization V coming!

[garbon]

I just always hated the fighting part of Civ. I hate going to war. I just want to build up a big beautiful civilization. I

What a girl.

God damn my ovaries.

[Korea]

Yes & no. It includes the game play improvement but not the playable civilizations.

Most of what G&K change was adding religion. Religion is in BNW.

Thanks. I'll check out the new civs in each expansion and decide, or if G&K is now cheap enough I can get it first.

Honestly, G&K is better than BNW anyway.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Hmm, the option to liberate extinct Civs is kinda strange. Do they just have the tech they had when extinguished? After facing down an expansive Japan (who ate up the Celts and Dutch), I decided to release Amsterdam back to the Dutch.  To keep them in my orbit, I also setup a defensive pact with them. I'm glad I did as turns out they have renaissance tech (actually when released they were medieval but first notice when I got told them had made it to renaissance) while the other civs and I are in modern tech.

Kinda seems to lessen the utility of bringing a civ back as a thorn in the side of others.

Yes, I agree.  I released a civ once from teh Huns.  Was at the spearman level of military tech when everyone else was at least using Great War Infantry. Kind of silly.

[Grey Fox]

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Works with BNW.

[Viking]

Has difficulty been upped any? Or is it just that I turned off the no pottery to ai mod? I'm falling further behind the a.i. than I am used to.

[DGuller]

Has difficulty been upped any? Or is it just that I turned off the no pottery to ai mod? I'm falling further behind the a.i. than I am used to.

No pottery to AI mod? 

[Grey Fox]

At the difficulties Viking plays(King+) the AI has a list of free tech they get at the start of the game. That mod removes Pottery from that list(it's Religion related).


http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=82133277

[Viking]

Has difficulty been upped any? Or is it just that I turned off the no pottery to ai mod? I'm falling further behind the a.i. than I am used to.

No pottery to AI mod? 

pottery is the tech that gives shrines, so the AI casually get's its shrines many turns before I can get them if I beeline religion. Even with the mod the only way to truly guarantee religion has been to beeline calendar and build stonehenge for +5 faith. I can't get stonehenge in time anymore.

However, I find it a bit hard to believe that this is the reason I'm sitting at 6th or 7th out of 8 rather than 3rd or 4th when I reach the renaissance.

[Viking]

BTW, I am turning against the 1 unit per hex system they have now simply because the A.I. can't use it properly.

In the early game I can usually pull of the same effect with one warrior and one archer (e.g. taking a capital) that the a.i. needs 10 of each to do. I do this with tactics. The a.i., however, usually wastes most of it's units on the attack and the attack fails if the a.i. doesn't husband both it's ranged and melee units.

[Razgovory]

What kind of set up do you guys play?  How big a map, how many civs, how many city states?

[DGuller]

BTW, I am turning against the 1 unit per hex system they have now simply because the A.I. can't use it properly.

In the early game I can usually pull of the same effect with one warrior and one archer (e.g. taking a capital) that the a.i. needs 10 of each to do. I do this with tactics. The a.i., however, usually wastes most of it's units on the attack and the attack fails if the a.i. doesn't husband both it's ranged and melee units.

How do you take a capital with one warrior and one archer?    Do you play at a very slow setting, such that you can level up your archer to +3 range double attacker before he becomes utterly obsolete?

[Viking]

BTW, I am turning against the 1 unit per hex system they have now simply because the A.I. can't use it properly.

In the early game I can usually pull of the same effect with one warrior and one archer (e.g. taking a capital) that the a.i. needs 10 of each to do. I do this with tactics. The a.i., however, usually wastes most of it's units on the attack and the attack fails if the a.i. doesn't husband both it's ranged and melee units.

How do you take a capital with one warrior and one archer?    Do you play at a very slow setting, such that you can level up your archer to +3 range double attacker before he becomes utterly obsolete?

I usually play marathon, yes. The downside is that it takes 20+ turns to build units for the most part. In that time the grand tidal wave can overrun your entire empire.

[DGuller]

In my game as Mongolia, my ultra high tourism output has put a lot of pressure on other countries to adopt the ideology of Freedom.  Citizens of Boston were so enamored with Mongolian culture that they revolted against America, and joined the Mongolian empire. 

[Zanza]

Playing marathon makes the game easier. The human player generally has a better tactical and strategic command over his units and as everything else slows down but units keep their speed, they become a more important component of the game and you can outsmart the AI on the battlefield easily.

[DGuller]

Playing marathon makes the game easier. The human player generally has a better tactical and strategic command over his units and as everything else slows down but units keep their speed, they become a more important component of the game and you can outsmart the AI on the battlefield easily.

Agreed.  I think the standard speed, and pretty much everything else, are best-balanced for a challenging game.