WWII games

[Tamas]

Dude, this is like my fourth sub sim.  Been doing target calcs since the original Silent Service. 

Also I did the torpedo training thing twice before starting the career, just to make sure I understood how to do it in this particular game.

I did get extremely close to the liner, I have to admit... probably dangerously close.  Actually I would have gotten even closer if the destroyers hadn't spotted my scope and zerg rushed me, at which point I fired my torps and crash dove.

Oh, wicked, then.

lol one time I was eyeing a convoy during night and was close to fire (I use auto-aiming though  ) and this destroyer was VERY close but I hoped they would not find me. Then, before I could cherry-pick my targets, suddenly there is light, the destroyer was pointing a searchlight right at my periscope 

[HisMajestyBOB]

I think I'm gonna get SHIV when I get back to the states. It's really cheap on D2D, and while I love SH3, I would like to nail a Jap Battleship. Or Carrier.
And doing only patrol missions does get a little boring sometimes. Still better than SH2 though.

[Tamas]

I think I'm gonna get SHIV when I get back to the states. It's really cheap on D2D, and while I love SH3, I would like to nail a Jap Battleship. Or Carrier.
And doing only patrol missions does get a little boring sometimes. Still better than SH2 though.

In one of my games on my first patrol (december 1941) I spotted TWO Jap battleships escorted by some destroyers. Problem was, it was broad daylight with calm waters and I could only very hastily fire a salvo before I  had to turn and run. Obviously they all missed and I could not find the task force again. 

[Ed Anger]

I would have laughed if they was all duds.

[Caliga]

I think I'm gonna get SHIV when I get back to the states. It's really cheap on D2D, and while I love SH3, I would like to nail a Jap Battleship. Or Carrier.
And doing only patrol missions does get a little boring sometimes. Still better than SH2 though.

Keep in mind that it's highly ahistorical for a sub to be able to wipe out task forces, etc. which is often the case in sub sims.  Before I got SH IV I was watching YouTube videos of the gameplay and people were commenting "LOL on my past patrol I sank two battelships three cruzers and 17 destroyers im l33t" and shit like that.  It wasn't unusual for a sub to come back from a patrol empty-handed.  The real value of the US submarine fleet was that it a) forced the Japs to waste tons of resources convoying their ships everywhere, and b) provided very useful intel to the surface fleet.

That's not to say the subs didn't have some great successes (i.e. the Shinano), but what people can often do in a sub sim is way outside of the realm of reality.

[Caliga]

Oh, and Tamas... do you know if you CAN rescue Jap survivors or not? 

[The Brain]

Oh, and Tamas... do you know if you CAN rescue Jap survivors or not? 

No alt-hist, Tim.

[Tamas]

Oh, and Tamas... do you know if you CAN rescue Jap survivors or not? 

I am pretty sure you can't

[Caliga]

I am pretty sure you can't

Upsetting. 

[CountDeMoney]

I am pretty sure you can't

Upsetting. 

Not as upsetting as it is for them when I use the deck gun.

[Ed Anger]

I am pretty sure you can't

Upsetting. 

Not as upsetting as it is for them when I use the deck gun.

Supplies!

[HisMajestyBOB]

I think I'm gonna get SHIV when I get back to the states. It's really cheap on D2D, and while I love SH3, I would like to nail a Jap Battleship. Or Carrier.
And doing only patrol missions does get a little boring sometimes. Still better than SH2 though.

Keep in mind that it's highly ahistorical for a sub to be able to wipe out task forces, etc. which is often the case in sub sims.  Before I got SH IV I was watching YouTube videos of the gameplay and people were commenting "LOL on my past patrol I sank two battelships three cruzers and 17 destroyers im l33t" and shit like that.  It wasn't unusual for a sub to come back from a patrol empty-handed.  The real value of the US submarine fleet was that it a) forced the Japs to waste tons of resources convoying their ships everywhere, and b) provided very useful intel to the surface fleet.

That's not to say the subs didn't have some great successes (i.e. the Shinano), but what people can often do in a sub sim is way outside of the realm of reality.

Oh, I know. I've been reading on the subsim forums the exploits of people that do harbor raids every patrol in SH3... even in 1943-44.

You also forgot c) wiped out most of Japan's merchant fleet.

[grumbler]

The real value of the US submarine fleet was that it a) forced the Japs to waste tons of resources convoying their ships everywhere, and b) provided very useful intel to the surface fleet.

  The real value was that they sank six million tons of Japanese shipping!  Yes, forcing the convoying of goods was useful (though it took a long time) and intel was of some use (though nothing like that provided by aircraft, and probably very seldom useful to the surface fleet), but it was actually sinking the tonnage and thereby crippling the Japanese economy that US subs proved most valuable.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Is the U-Boat expansion for SH4 worth the extra ~$5? Or does SH3+GWX mod do a better job?

[Caliga]

  The real value was that they sank six million tons of Japanese shipping! 

Oh yeah, I forgot about that part.