Anti-Minaret Online Referendum

[katmai]

Beeb I'm sure it is a haven for those nutzo "albertan" seperatists.

[Razgovory]

We are pleased.  The Swiss show the way; being welcoming is one thing - tolerating an invasion in the name of multiculturalism is another.




G.

Zurich, 1482.  The burning of two sodomites.

[Razgovory]

I doubt the swiss are the only country that would vote for this sort of thing. I wonder if it would pass in the US--unfortunately I suspect it might.

I think the majority of Americans would have spiess's attitude- not against it in principle, but don't see a reason to bother implementing a ban now.

God, I'd hope that most people would be opposed to it on principle.  I'm not sure what other reason there would be to oppose it, other than that it violates the basic right to free exercise of religion.

[Josquius]

I dunno.  The minaret thing doesn't seem important.  What is important is to deny permission for Muslim cultural centres (read:  terrorist recruitment centres), which Switzerland is doing a good job with.

They haven't done that though.
Surely from that stand point its better to have muslim buildings stand out and be obviously what they are than secretely hidden away in office buildings?

[Sheilbh]

Uhm, ever heard of a constitution/bill of rights concept? 

Or representative democracy.

I agree with grumbler.  I find it very sad that if you actually support liberal values you're seen as being somehow to weak to protect liberalism.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I doubt the swiss are the only country that would vote for this sort of thing. I wonder if it would pass in the US--unfortunately I suspect it might.

I think the majority of Americans would have spiess's attitude- not against it in principle, but don't see a reason to bother implementing a ban now.

God, I'd hope that most people would be opposed to it on principle.  I'm not sure what other reason there would be to oppose it, other than that it violates the basic right to free exercise of religion.

they can exercise their religion all they want, no minarets are needed. Christians don't need churchbells either.

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers... "
A little poem by Erdogan no less. It's from quite a while ago but it remains telling, even if maybe Erdogan himself doen't subscribe to it anymore (though there is no way of knowing for sure).
Make enough veiled threats or call for 'our' destruction enough and a backlash is all but assured.

As it is the people at large weren't asked about mass-immigration, and when they voiced their fears or pointed out problems they were hounded away by the politicians and poco-loco-organisations on the left. No, instead they were told to be inclusive and to show understanding.
This is the result you get when people are eventually asked. The good get to suffer because of the bad, as always.

[Jaron]

More silly talk from Europeans. After what we Americans have been through, did we possibly expect them to ever understand what freedom of religion is?

[Martinus]

I dunno.  The minaret thing doesn't seem important.  What is important is to deny permission for Muslim cultural centres (read:  terrorist recruitment centres), which Switzerland is doing a good job with.

Because clearly Lac La Biche, Alberta is a terrorist recruitment centre.

It looks like an act of terrorism against good taste.

[garbon]

they can exercise their religion all they want, no minarets are needed. Christians don't need churchbells either.

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers... "
A little poem by Erdogan no less. It's from quite a while ago but it remains telling, even if maybe Erdogan himself doen't subscribe to it anymore (though there is no way of knowing for sure).
Make enough veiled threats or call for 'our' destruction enough and a backlash is all but assured.

As it is the people at large weren't asked about mass-immigration, and when they voiced their fears or pointed out problems they were hounded away by the politicians and poco-loco-organisations on the left. No, instead they were told to be inclusive and to show understanding.
This is the result you get when people are eventually asked. The good get to suffer because of the bad, as always.

So were mosques banned as well?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

So were mosques banned as well?

evidently not, but where the future will lead I know not.

[Duque de Bragança]

In other news, Muslim dictators will still need Swiss bank accounts.

[Winkelried]

I voted "no" on principle, it infringes freedom of religion and doesn't solve any problems at all. I'm surprised at the amount of "yes" votes let alone the fact that it passed. 

[Mr.Penguin]

So were mosques banned as well?

evidently not, but where the future will lead I know not.

Well, back in the day of the muhammed cartoons, did we have so called "international experts" claiming that we in didnt have any mosques in Denmark, becourse non of them had a minarat, so no minarat, no mosque...

Funny enough, most of our local muslims didnt see it  that way, but then again what our local muslims say or though was largely seen as irrelevant doing the muhammed cartoon crisis...

[bogh]

Very retarded.

Compromising on the principles of freedom of religion just to harrass a certain religion is very silly IMO.

[CountDeMoney]

It looks like an act of terrorism against good taste.

It looks like a Russian Orthodox Church woke up one day and decided it wanted to be in a trailer park.