Israel-Hamas War 2023

[HVC]

This classic came up on my feed and I figured it apt based on the discussion of long memories

[Razgovory]

They will remember Palestine of course.

Yes. People there have long fucking memories. Just as we have been saying.

Why do you turn simple statements that you agree with into long drawn out arguments over nothing? It just doesn't make any sense.

That I said their memories are selective?  And the evidence that they aren't selective is that some countries actively suppress knowledge of inconvenient parts of their history?  I didn't know that this was some kind of extreme statement.

[crazy canuck]

From the Globe and Mail

The leaders of Canada, Britain and France on Monday threatened action against Israel if it does not stop a renewed military offensive in Gaza and lift aid restrictions, piling further pressure on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Israeli military announced the start of a new operation on Friday, and Mr. Netanyahu said earlier on Monday that Israel would take control of the whole of Gaza. International experts have already warned of looming famine.

"The Israeli Government's denial of essential humanitarian assistance to the civilian population is unacceptable and risks breaching International Humanitarian Law," said a joint statement released by Prime Minister Mark Carney, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron.

[Razgovory]

Imagine, your people are starving and experiencing genocide* and you could stop it by just releasing a few hostages.

[crazy canuck]

Imagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.

[Razgovory]

Imagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.

Yeah, Hamas really are fucking bastards, aren't they?

[crazy canuck]

Imagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.

Yeah, Hamas really are fucking bastards, aren't they?

Yes, they are and unfortunately, they are not the only ones worthy of condemnation in this conflict.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Imagine, your people are starving and experiencing genocide* and you could stop it by just releasing a few hostages.

How Soviet of you.

[Razgovory]

Imagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.

Yeah, Hamas really are fucking bastards, aren't they?

Yes, they are and unfortunately, they are not the only ones worthy of condemnation in this conflict.

Yet you want to give them what they want.  You trust them.

[Razgovory]

Imagine, your people are starving and experiencing genocide* and you could stop it by just releasing a few hostages.

How Soviet of you.

Really, condemnation of holding hostages is pretty typical.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Really, condemnation of holding hostages is pretty typical.

Condemnation is pretty typical.  Trying to get them back without regard to the death and destruction caused is pretty Soviet/Russian.

[Razgovory]

Really, condemnation of holding hostages is pretty typical.

Condemnation is pretty typical.  Trying to get them back without regard to the death and destruction caused is pretty Soviet/Russian.

It's also fairly American.

[Solmyr]

It's rather obvious at this point (unless you are Raz, I guess) that Israel does not care about the hostages anymore and would not stop even if they were released.

[Josquius]

It's rather obvious at this point (unless you are Raz, I guess) that Israel does not care about the hostages anymore and would not stop even if they were released.

Yeah, they'd find something.

I would bet even if everyone remotely connected to the hostages suddenly came under mind control and was made to hand them all over immediately that this wouldn't actually be possible. That some are dead is a given, some bodies might have been destroyed/completely lost amidst rubble and bodies.

[Admiral Yi]

It's rather obvious at this point (unless you are Raz, I guess) that Israel does not care about the hostages anymore and would not stop even if they were released.

It's not obvious to me.  Please explain your reasoning.