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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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HVC

This classic came up on my feed and I figured it apt based on the discussion of long memories

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on May 14, 2025, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2025, 12:35:29 PMThey will remember Palestine of course.

Yes. People there have long fucking memories. Just as we have been saying.

Why do you turn simple statements that you agree with into long drawn out arguments over nothing? It just doesn't make any sense.

That I said their memories are selective?  And the evidence that they aren't selective is that some countries actively suppress knowledge of inconvenient parts of their history?  I didn't know that this was some kind of extreme statement.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

From the Globe and Mail

QuoteThe leaders of Canada, Britain and France on Monday threatened action against Israel if it does not stop a renewed military offensive in Gaza and lift aid restrictions, piling further pressure on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Israeli military announced the start of a new operation on Friday, and Mr. Netanyahu said earlier on Monday that Israel would take control of the whole of Gaza. International experts have already warned of looming famine.

"The Israeli Government's denial of essential humanitarian assistance to the civilian population is unacceptable and risks breaching International Humanitarian Law," said a joint statement released by Prime Minister Mark Carney, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron.

Razgovory

Imagine, your people are starving and experiencing genocide* and you could stop it by just releasing a few hostages.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Imagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 20, 2025, 10:05:36 AMImagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.
Yeah, Hamas really are fucking bastards, aren't they?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 20, 2025, 10:05:36 AMImagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.
Yeah, Hamas really are fucking bastards, aren't they?

Yes, they are and unfortunately, they are not the only ones worthy of condemnation in this conflict.

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 10:02:30 AMImagine, your people are starving and experiencing genocide* and you could stop it by just releasing a few hostages.

How Soviet of you.

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on May 20, 2025, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 10:28:46 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on May 20, 2025, 10:05:36 AMImagine doing nothing as thousands of infants starve to death.
Yeah, Hamas really are fucking bastards, aren't they?

Yes, they are and unfortunately, they are not the only ones worthy of condemnation in this conflict.
Yet you want to give them what they want.  You trust them.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 20, 2025, 10:53:16 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 10:02:30 AMImagine, your people are starving and experiencing genocide* and you could stop it by just releasing a few hostages.

How Soviet of you.

Really, condemnation of holding hostages is pretty typical.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 10:58:04 AMReally, condemnation of holding hostages is pretty typical.

Condemnation is pretty typical.  Trying to get them back without regard to the death and destruction caused is pretty Soviet/Russian.

Razgovory

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on May 20, 2025, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 20, 2025, 10:58:04 AMReally, condemnation of holding hostages is pretty typical.

Condemnation is pretty typical.  Trying to get them back without regard to the death and destruction caused is pretty Soviet/Russian.

It's also fairly American.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Solmyr

It's rather obvious at this point (unless you are Raz, I guess) that Israel does not care about the hostages anymore and would not stop even if they were released.

Josquius

Quote from: Solmyr on May 21, 2025, 02:42:26 AMIt's rather obvious at this point (unless you are Raz, I guess) that Israel does not care about the hostages anymore and would not stop even if they were released.


Yeah, they'd find something.

I would bet even if everyone remotely connected to the hostages suddenly came under mind control and was made to hand them all over immediately that this wouldn't actually be possible. That some are dead is a given, some bodies might have been destroyed/completely lost amidst rubble and bodies.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Solmyr on May 21, 2025, 02:42:26 AMIt's rather obvious at this point (unless you are Raz, I guess) that Israel does not care about the hostages anymore and would not stop even if they were released.


It's not obvious to me.  Please explain your reasoning.