Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

[Savonarola]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArFkmmGRkZQ

Spring Breakers continue to party like it's 1999.

That's been in the news almost every night here (Daytona and Clearwater have similar crowds as Miami Beach.)  Some places in Florida have tried to restrict beach access by shutting down parking lots; but so far no one has closed beaches (yet).

While the beaches still aren't closed; the governor did announce that there would be a $500 fine for open bottle on the beach and $500 fine for parking in a shut down beach lot.   The former, at least, should slow spring break down.

[Fate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArFkmmGRkZQ

Spring Breakers continue to party like it's 1999.

That's been in the news almost every night here (Daytona and Clearwater have similar crowds as Miami Beach.)  Some places in Florida have tried to restrict beach access by shutting down parking lots; but so far no one has closed beaches (yet).

While the beaches still aren't closed; the governor did announce that there would be a $500 fine for open bottle on the beach and $500 fine for parking in a shut down beach lot.   The former, at least, should slow spring break down.

What's the point of a fine when no one has any income? And no courts to enforce it.

[merithyn]

Interesting video from Italians, ostensibly to their past selves but really a message to current Americans and UK folks, I'd think. Especially the idiots on Florida beaches.

https://youtu.be/o_cImRzKXOs

[DGuller]

There are no healthy obese people, DG.

Obesity is a medical condition. There's a direct correlation with life expectancy.

Correlation is not causation.

Most misused and misunderstood concept in statistics.  This saying probably leads to more damage than the original mistake of confusing correlation with causation.

[crazy canuck]

Obesity doesn't just mean overweight.

Obesity is by definition a chronic medical condition.  There is by definition no such thing as a heathy obese person.

No, obesity doesn't mean overweight.

Overweight means BMI > 25
Obese means BMI > 30

By definition.

Neither guarantees bad health, although as pointed out, they are correlated.  There absolutely is such a thing as a healthy obese person.  Statistically though, an obese person is less likely to be healthy than a person of normal weight.

Not sure you actually read my post.

Obesity is in fact a chronic disease.

[Legbiter]

Quarantine the fattie cope somewhere else lads. Let's keep this thread to update each other.

[merithyn]

Obesity doesn't just mean overweight.

Obesity is by definition a chronic medical condition.  There is by definition no such thing as a heathy obese person.

No, obesity doesn't mean overweight.

Overweight means BMI > 25
Obese means BMI > 30

By definition.

Neither guarantees bad health, although as pointed out, they are correlated.  There absolutely is such a thing as a healthy obese person.  Statistically though, an obese person is less likely to be healthy than a person of normal weight.

Not sure you actually read my post.

Obesity is in fact a chronic disease.

Yes, by which definition I am obese.

[merithyn]

Quarantine the fattie cope somewhere else lads. Let's keep this thread to update each other.

[DGuller]

Obesity doesn't just mean overweight.

Obesity is by definition a chronic medical condition.  There is by definition no such thing as a heathy obese person.

That's a meaningless tautology.  You can define having a broken nail as a disease, and thus by definition no one with a broken nail is a healthy person.  The utility of such definitions for discussing risks of complications from COVID-19 is limited.

[mongers]

Trump was doing so well in his press conference, but when he got to mentioning the virus he slightly paused and couldn't resist naming it the Chinese virus*, you could he his health guy Fasci (sp?) drop his head a bit in disappointment.



*I'm assuming his briefing notes/speech might say Corona-virus or COVID-19, but that he changes it.Though knowing him he's probably mandated that it'll be referred to as the Chinese disease/virus in all government comms?

[merithyn]

Trump was doing so well in his press conference, but when he got to mentioning the virus he slightly paused and couldn't resist naming it the Chinese virus*, you could he his health guy Fasci (sp?) drop his head a bit in disappointment.



*I'm assuming his briefing notes/speech might say Corona-virus or COVID-19, but that he changes it.Though knowing him he's probably mandated that it'll be referred to as the Chinese disease/virus in all government comms?

Which is this one? Has he had a new one?

[Fate]

I think most people would be fine if he shifted to calling it the Wuhan China virus. I think it would be useful in rallying world support to condemn China for their complicity in this outbreak.

Don't make this about an ethnicity. Would we really tolerate a leader calling a virus that arose from Israel the Jewish virus?

[Fate]

Trump was doing so well in his press conference, but when he got to mentioning the virus he slightly paused and couldn't resist naming it the Chinese virus*, you could he his health guy Fasci (sp?) drop his head a bit in disappointment.



*I'm assuming his briefing notes/speech might say Corona-virus or COVID-19, but that he changes it.Though knowing him he's probably mandated that it'll be referred to as the Chinese disease/virus in all government comms?

His staff call it the Corona Virus in the prepared text. He's changing it to Chinese.

[Legbiter]

I think most people would be fine if he shifted to calling it the Wuhan China virus.

The foreign Chinese virus    Brand the fact this came from China on their foreheads now that the commies are trying to shift it away from themselves.

[Fate]

793 new deaths today in Italy, total now 4,825.

6,557 new cases today, total now 53,578.