Whither Obamacare?

[viper37]

Wow, average compensation for a specialist in Canada is $161K? That seems very low to me. I assume it is lower compensation in the smaller provinces bringing the average down.

161$K in US$, with PPP.  Meaning what you can purchase with 1$ here and 1$ in the US.
It's not the raw data.  Specialists in Quebec started at around 230k$ CAN$ at this time, much more today.  Also, it's what they make from their 1st to their last year.  Presumably, a doctor's wage increase with the number of years in practice?  Also, they may have bonuses to work outside of metro areas, plus various expenses paid.

It is just so out of wack with other stats I have seen.

https://www.cma.ca/En/Pages/canadian-physician-statistics.aspx

For 2014-2015, total average for Canadian specialists earning at least $60K from fees (i.e., not retired or mostly doing something other than medicine) was CAN $384,000. This only includes fees for medical services, not any other form of payment.

https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=SNA_TABLE4

Convert to US dollars based on PPP for 2014-15 would = US $309,677. Which is almost double. Seems hard to believe fees nearly doubled in the five or six years from 2009 to 2014-15. 

First, you are comparing two different things.
The base wage and the earning.

Base wage is X$.  They get, say, 1.05X$ for practicing in Oshawa instead of Toronto.  They get 1.08X$ for practicing in Oshawa during week-ends and holydays.  They get 1.75X for practicing in overtime, the first 5hrs, in Oshawa.  They get 2X$ for practicing in Toronto in overtime, and they can earn 2X$ more often during the year because there more cases and they have an heavier workload.  And they can sometimes charge fees for stuff not specifically covered by the public insurances (accessory fees).

And yes, their earnings increased a lot since 2009:
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/compensation-for-quebec-doctors-catching-up-to-the-canadian-average

[Zanza]

The "Healthcare Access and Quality Index" for all countries globally. It measures how often people die of 32 treatable non-chronic diseases.
http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(17)30818-8.pdf


1   Andorra   94,6
2   Iceland   93,6
3   Switzerland   92
4   Norway 90,5
4   Sweden   90,5
6   Australia   89,8
7   Finland   89,6
7   Spain   89,6
9   Netherlands   89,5
10   Luxembourg   89,3
11   Italy   88,7
12   Ireland   88,4
13   Austria   88,2
14   Belgium   87,9
14   France   87,9
16   Canada   87,6
17   Brunei Darussalam   87,4
18   Greece   87,0
19   Singapore   86,7
20   Germany   86,4
21   New Zealand   86,2
22   South Korea   85,8
23   Denmark   85,7
24   Israel   85,5
25   Cyprus   85,3
26   Qatar   85,2
27   Malta   85,1
28   Czechia   84,8
29   United Kingdom   84,6
30   Japan   84,5
30   Portugal   84,5
32   Slowenia   84,3
33   Kuwait   82
34   Croatien   81,6
35   Estonia   81,4
36   United States   81,3
...
195 Central African Republic 28,6

[Valmy]

So what is Andorra's health care system?

[The Minsky Moment]

So what is Andorra's health care system?

They immediately deport anyone about to die from one of 32 treatable non-chronic diseases.

[Valmy]

So what is Andorra's health care system?

They immediately deport anyone about to die from one of 32 treatable non-chronic diseases.

I think we should implement this

[celedhring]

So what is Andorra's health care system?

They immediately deport anyone about to die from one of 32 treatable non-chronic diseases.

I think we should implement this

Minsky is closer to the truth than he probably believes. Most serious stuff is treated in Spanish hospitals, there's an agreement between both health care systems.

Andorra is way too small to develop enough capabilities to treat everything.

[Fate]

800 billion in cuts from Medicaid in AHCA wasn't enough, so the White House decided to add another 600 billion in Medicaid cuts in their budget proposal. 1.4 trillion in cuts over the next 10 years. From the guy on the campaign trail who stated "I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/596338364187602944

Today's revised AHCA CBO projection is going to be operating under the 800 billion cut scenario. I can't wait to see what disaster Kaiser and other healthcare analysts think a 1.4 trillion cut would result in.

All so we can pay for tax cuts that'll go to the top 5%. And because freedom.

[CountDeMoney]

Think of it this way, Fate MD;  it's the long game designed specifically so you'll have less of those fucking animals you've been bitching about at JHH to deal with over time.  Think big picture, because it's all about you.

[derspiess]

No, Seedy.  It's all about YOU!

[CountDeMoney]

Eat HPV and die, derfetusfucker.  You'll get your dead niggers.

[alfred russel]

"Czechia", Lancet? Really?

Also, I imagine that Slowenia can still outrun half of the Big 10.

[Fate]

"Czechia", Lancet? Really?

What's wrong with Czechia? That's what they want to go by these days.

[HVC]

Official funeral for AHCA and Medicaid

[Zanza]

"Czechia", Lancet? Really?

Also, I imagine that Slowenia can still outrun half of the Big 10.

I translated that from a German list.

[derspiess]

"Czechia", Lancet? Really?

What's wrong with Czechia? That's what they want to go by these days.

I think I read somewhere recently that they decided to give up on that, due to the potential confusion with Chechnia.