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Whither Obamacare?

Started by Jacob, January 05, 2017, 01:25:36 AM

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What will the GOP do to Obamacare?

There will be much sturm und drang, but ultimately no concrete action will be taken. It'll still be Obamacare.
5 (13.2%)
They'll attempt to rebrand it and own it, changing a few details, but otherwise leaving it in place.
6 (15.8%)
They'll replace it with something terrific that provides better coverage and cheaper too for the populace.
2 (5.3%)
They'll repeal it without a replacement, leaving large number of Americans without coverage for a significant period of time, perhaps forever.
17 (44.7%)
They'll repeal it with a replacement that screws over some people, but still covers some people significantly and call that an improvement.
7 (18.4%)
Some other outcome.
1 (2.6%)

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derspiess

#600
July 25, 2017, 02:44:19 PM
PENCE!!!!
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Valmy

#601
July 25, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
Yeah so what did Pence just cast the winning vote for?
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Grey Fox

#602
July 25, 2017, 02:59:08 PM
To talk about it.
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Jacob

#603
July 25, 2017, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
Yeah so what did Pence just cast the winning vote for?

As I understand it:

To start debating an unspecified health care act repeal bill under the reconciliation rule, meaning it cannot be filibustered but can pass on a simple majority.

Valmy

#604
July 25, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
Right! This calls for immediate discussion!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

#605
July 25, 2017, 03:25:27 PM
My guess then is most Repubs didn't want to be on the shortlist of standing in the way of even discussing a bill while they might still then be against anyone bill as they can point out to their constituents on how that specific implementation would hurt them.
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CountDeMoney

#606
July 25, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
Right! This calls for immediate discussion!

Can't murder people fast enough, you know.  If we can do it with drones, no reason why Congress can't try to keep up.

The Minsky Moment

#607
July 25, 2017, 03:57:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 25, 2017, 02:57:21 PM
Yeah so what did Pence just cast the winning vote for?

Digging that hole even deeper.  Cause before there was still a slight chance of escape.
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Eddie Teach

#608
July 25, 2017, 04:09:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2017, 07:30:43 AM
So today's the day. It'll either happen or it won't.

And if it doesn't, they'll try again next week.
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Ed Anger

#609
July 25, 2017, 08:06:20 PM
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

jimmy olsen

#610
July 25, 2017, 09:27:28 PM
Looks like if anything passes, it would be this, which would tank the private insurance market but not touch medicaid.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/here-s-lowdown-skinny-repeal-obamacare-n786536
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CountDeMoney

#611
July 25, 2017, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2017, 09:27:28 PM
Looks like if anything passes, it would be this, which would tank the private insurance market but not touch medicaid.

Of course.  So I have to lose my shitty job, with which I can barely afford insurance through the health exchange with because my employer doesn't offer insurance, to get an even shittier job so I can qualify for Medicaid.  And why not.

derniggerhater, I tip my hat.  Well played, sir.

derspiess

#612
July 26, 2017, 12:18:57 AM
Took a long damned time to develop, but that's what you get for making fun of my forehead all these years :contract:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

#613
July 26, 2017, 12:36:31 AM
I may lose my healthcare, but you'll still be stuck with Marvin Lewis.  Talk about being punished for preexisting conditions.

garbon

#614
July 26, 2017, 03:09:55 AM
Well there's some hope for you that the far right will be angry that it isn't slashing Medicaid and will refuse to back such an approach.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.
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