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Started by Jacob, January 05, 2017, 01:25:36 AM

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What will the GOP do to Obamacare?

There will be much sturm und drang, but ultimately no concrete action will be taken. It'll still be Obamacare.
5 (13.2%)
They'll attempt to rebrand it and own it, changing a few details, but otherwise leaving it in place.
6 (15.8%)
They'll replace it with something terrific that provides better coverage and cheaper too for the populace.
2 (5.3%)
They'll repeal it without a replacement, leaving large number of Americans without coverage for a significant period of time, perhaps forever.
17 (44.7%)
They'll repeal it with a replacement that screws over some people, but still covers some people significantly and call that an improvement.
7 (18.4%)
Some other outcome.
1 (2.6%)

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Zanza

#375
March 25, 2017, 10:44:12 AM
Quote@realDonaldTrump 
ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!

He is cynical in letting it "explode" and delusional in that this would somehow make "all" get together and fix it.

Valmy

#376
March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?
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Eddie Teach

#377
March 25, 2017, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?

Why not go ahead and defeat ISIS while you're at it.
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Legbiter

#378
March 25, 2017, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: Zanza on March 25, 2017, 10:44:12 AM
Quote@realDonaldTrump 
ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!

He is cynical in letting it "explode" and delusional in that this would somehow make "all" get together and fix it.

He had to agree with the GOP and let them fail hard with their plan (mission accomplished) while at the same time scaring the Dems. Then he gets to step in and engineer a Kobayashi Maru gambit at an opportune time and place.  :hmm:

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CountDeMoney

#379
March 25, 2017, 11:28:19 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?

I really wish they would stop trying to kill me like they knew me.  If it was personal, that's one thing.  But I'm not even in the demographics they hate, for fuck's sake. 

Grey Fox

#380
March 25, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?

You could have it but you let the Dems fuck over Bernie.
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CountDeMoney

#381
March 25, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 25, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?

You could have it but you let the Dems fuck over Bernie.

Bernie :rolleyes:

garbon

#382
March 25, 2017, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 25, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?

You could have it but you let the Dems fuck over Bernie.

:rolleyes:
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Razgovory

#383
March 25, 2017, 12:01:16 PM
I also have to post the  :rolleyes:  Some staffer at the DNC didn't like Sanders, therefore it was stolen from him.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

CountDeMoney

#384
March 25, 2017, 12:03:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 25, 2017, 12:01:16 PM
I also have to post the  :rolleyes:  Some staffer at the DNC didn't like Sanders, therefore it was stolen from him.

Bernie Sanders is the kind of third party wingnut that party national committees are supposed to tap down.  Alas, the RNC doesn't do things that way.  And so here we are.


You know, for all the Bernie Love I keep coming across for somebody who was never a member of the Democratic Party, I have yet to come across anybody that can actually remember him saying something--anything--regarding foreign policy.  Ever.

Eddie Teach

#385
March 25, 2017, 12:36:17 PM
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HVC

#386
March 25, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 25, 2017, 12:03:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 25, 2017, 12:01:16 PM
I also have to post the  :rolleyes:  Some staffer at the DNC didn't like Sanders, therefore it was stolen from him.

Bernie Sanders is the kind of third party wingnut that party national committees are supposed to tap down.  Alas, the RNC doesn't do things that way.  And so here we are.


You know, for all the Bernie Love I keep coming across for somebody who was never a member of the Democratic Party, I have yet to come across anybody that can actually remember him saying something--anything--regarding foreign policy.  Ever.

Whatever his policy were they would have been better then trumps :P
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CountDeMoney

#387
March 25, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 25, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
Whatever his policy were they would have been better then trumps :P

Just a different flavor of incompetence.

grumbler

#388
March 25, 2017, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 25, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on March 25, 2017, 10:52:24 AM
Why not just give us great healthcare now?

You could have it but you let the Dems fuck over Bernie.

Bernie couldn't have provided health care and he deserved to get fucked over by the Democrats he had been fucking over for decades.  If Bernie wants the Democratic nomination, the first thing he needs to do is become a Democrat.  If he's too pure to be a Democrat, he's too pure to be the party's nominee.
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HVC

#389
March 25, 2017, 12:48:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 25, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 25, 2017, 12:42:39 PM
Whatever his policy were they would have been better then trumps :P

Just a different flavor of incompetence.

I don't really know enough about Bernie to know why so many here seem to dislike him.  The picture I have of him, which admittedly could be very off, is that he's  eurotype socialist, but people here fear him as a South American type socialist.

The average American is dying with 62k in debt, it might be time for euro socialism. 
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.
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