What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[mongers]

Since I don't know how any sane person can think Trump is handling Covid well, I have to conclude from that poll that 33% of Americans probably believe it's not a real virus, fake news, liberal media made it all up, etc.

Yes, and there's likely a similar percentage of useful idiots in all countries, that just need to right prompting to come out of the woodwork.

[crazy canuck]

CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

Yeah, I am not the only one who makes the point.  But for some reason I am revel in American deaths.  It is kind of like the attacks I see a lot on Twitter whenever someone points out what is happening in the US.  Somehow that is cheering on people dying.  I am not sure where this sort of thinking comes from but it is amazing to me that suggest that talking about the causes of the worst crisis to hit the world since global warming is something that should not be discussed.

Perhaps the reality is just too disturbing for some.  I get that.  But as I said to Garbon, why shoot the messenger when there are obvious causes you can better turn your anger toward.

Or perhaps the answer is the community has become so toxic that it is just not possible to have that sort of discussion.  I just noticed Grumbles that post.  That may be the simple answer.

I think there are a lot of different reasons people are taking your posts the way they do.  One of them is your tone.  I think you had more than your share of pretty bad interpretations of current events recently, and yet the arrogance and smugness with which you share your interpretations never abates.  I think most people would lay low for a while after a series of bad takes, especially if those bad takes were delivered in a lecturing tone, but you keep at it without a hint of added humility.  This isn't the only reason people take your posts the way they do, but it's a force multiplier.

OK, fuck off.  The one thing I said that I regret saying is that the death rate looked like it was no worse than the flu.  That early research I linked was wrong.  The rest of your post is just character assassination.  You get to go into the Grumbler pile of posters I will try not to pay any attention to.

The rest of it, calling attention to how badly the US is dealing with this crisis, stands.  Nationalism is terrible and especially now if you are offended by hearing how terrible your country is doing.

Isn't it about time you run away again to pout?

I'm not really sure why you need to call attention for us to how bad the US is doing. We all see enough news articles here and elsewhere to comprehend the basic facts.

You also get to go on the Grumbler pile.  Explains your dickhead move in the back room.

[garbon]

CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

Yeah, I am not the only one who makes the point.  But for some reason I am revel in American deaths.  It is kind of like the attacks I see a lot on Twitter whenever someone points out what is happening in the US.  Somehow that is cheering on people dying.  I am not sure where this sort of thinking comes from but it is amazing to me that suggest that talking about the causes of the worst crisis to hit the world since global warming is something that should not be discussed.

Perhaps the reality is just too disturbing for some.  I get that.  But as I said to Garbon, why shoot the messenger when there are obvious causes you can better turn your anger toward.

Or perhaps the answer is the community has become so toxic that it is just not possible to have that sort of discussion.  I just noticed Grumbles that post.  That may be the simple answer.

I think there are a lot of different reasons people are taking your posts the way they do.  One of them is your tone.  I think you had more than your share of pretty bad interpretations of current events recently, and yet the arrogance and smugness with which you share your interpretations never abates.  I think most people would lay low for a while after a series of bad takes, especially if those bad takes were delivered in a lecturing tone, but you keep at it without a hint of added humility.  This isn't the only reason people take your posts the way they do, but it's a force multiplier.

OK, fuck off.  The one thing I said that I regret saying is that the death rate looked like it was no worse than the flu.  That early research I linked was wrong.  The rest of your post is just character assassination.  You get to go into the Grumbler pile of posters I will try not to pay any attention to.

The rest of it, calling attention to how badly the US is dealing with this crisis, stands.  Nationalism is terrible and especially now if you are offended by hearing how terrible your country is doing.

Isn't it about time you run away again to pout?

I'm not really sure why you need to call attention for us to how bad the US is doing. We all see enough news articles here and elsewhere to comprehend the basic facts.

You also get to go on the Grumbler pile.  Explains your dickhead move in the back room.

Damn, I was hoping you'd throw a hissy fit and would leave again.

[viper37]

Please stop it you two.  Solve it by PM if need be, but we all appreciate you both here.  Despite our disagreements on some subjects.

[DGuller]

Is there a remediation plan one can submit and fulfill to get out of the Grumbler pile?  Or is this a permanent sanction?  Asking for a friend.

[Eddie Teach]

Just remember that debates are a game for him and you'll be fine.

[grumbler]

Is there a remediation plan one can submit and fulfill to get out of the Grumbler pile?  Or is this a permanent sanction?  Asking for a friend.

You've been sent there by cc.  Wear it as a mark of pride.  In the trolls versus grumblers contest, you know where you stand.

[PDH]

Is there a remediation plan one can submit and fulfill to get out of the Grumbler pile?  Or is this a permanent sanction?  Asking for a friend.

You've been sent there by cc.  Wear it as a mark of pride.  In the trolls versus grumblers contest, you know where you stand.

I mostly sit.

[PRC]

Trump commutes Roger Stones sentence.

[viper37]

Trump commutes Roger Stones sentence.

Link

[merithyn]

This can't surprise anyone.

[Syt]

[Tamas]

This can't surprise anyone.

Yeah I already went through this with the bastards in Hungary. Everyone, for effin' years were like "oh surely they wouldn't do THAT! Oh wait, they did" and repeat that literally dozens of times.

[Syt]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281616586273468416

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...

... and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!

[Berkut]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281616586273468416

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status...

... and/or Funding, which will be taken away if this Propaganda or Act Against Public Policy continues. Our children must be Educated, not Indoctrinated!

I know I am preaching to the choir here, but he isn't saying shit like this because he is crazy.

Donald Trump, on his own, has probalby never, ever, EVER once given a second of thought to education of any kind.

He is saying this because there is a hard core part of his base who truly and absolutely believes this shit, and truly believe that marxist socialist have taken over education, and are destroying America, resulting in Antifa attacking statues of George Washington in their war against True American History.

I had someone, a family friend, say with complete seriousness he knows this is true because when he went into his local high school, he saw that they had CNN on in some classroom. So obviously all teachers and adminstrators are left wing socialists indoctrinating the youth of America.

I am not saying this like "Haha those crazy Trumpette Tea Partiers! So funny!"

This is legitimately scary.