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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on July 06, 2020, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2020, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 06, 2020, 03:50:20 PM
CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

Yeah, I am not the only one who makes the point.  But for some reason I am revel in American deaths.  It is kind of like the attacks I see a lot on Twitter whenever someone points out what is happening in the US.  Somehow that is cheering on people dying.  I am not sure where this sort of thinking comes from but it is amazing to me that suggest that talking about the causes of the worst crisis to hit the world since global warming is something that should not be discussed.

Perhaps the reality is just too disturbing for some.  I get that.  But as I said to Garbon, why shoot the messenger when there are obvious causes you can better turn your anger toward.

Or perhaps the answer is the community has become so toxic that it is just not possible to have that sort of discussion.  I just noticed Grumbles that post.  That may be the simple answer.
I think there are a lot of different reasons people are taking your posts the way they do.  One of them is your tone.  I think you had more than your share of pretty bad interpretations of current events recently, and yet the arrogance and smugness with which you share your interpretations never abates.  I think most people would lay low for a while after a series of bad takes, especially if those bad takes were delivered in a lecturing tone, but you keep at it without a hint of added humility.  This isn't the only reason people take your posts the way they do, but it's a force multiplier.

OK, fuck off.  The one thing I said that I regret saying is that the death rate looked like it was no worse than the flu.  That early research I linked was wrong.  The rest of your post is just character assassination.  You get to go into the Grumbler pile of posters I will try not to pay any attention to.

The rest of it, calling attention to how badly the US is dealing with this crisis, stands.  Nationalism is terrible and especially now if you are offended by hearing how terrible your country is doing.

garbon

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Quote from: crazy canuck on July 07, 2020, 11:46:01 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 06, 2020, 09:52:09 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 06, 2020, 05:12:21 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 06, 2020, 03:50:20 PM
CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

Yeah, I am not the only one who makes the point.  But for some reason I am revel in American deaths.  It is kind of like the attacks I see a lot on Twitter whenever someone points out what is happening in the US.  Somehow that is cheering on people dying.  I am not sure where this sort of thinking comes from but it is amazing to me that suggest that talking about the causes of the worst crisis to hit the world since global warming is something that should not be discussed.

Perhaps the reality is just too disturbing for some.  I get that.  But as I said to Garbon, why shoot the messenger when there are obvious causes you can better turn your anger toward.

Or perhaps the answer is the community has become so toxic that it is just not possible to have that sort of discussion.  I just noticed Grumbles that post.  That may be the simple answer.
I think there are a lot of different reasons people are taking your posts the way they do.  One of them is your tone.  I think you had more than your share of pretty bad interpretations of current events recently, and yet the arrogance and smugness with which you share your interpretations never abates.  I think most people would lay low for a while after a series of bad takes, especially if those bad takes were delivered in a lecturing tone, but you keep at it without a hint of added humility.  This isn't the only reason people take your posts the way they do, but it's a force multiplier.

OK, fuck off.  The one thing I said that I regret saying is that the death rate looked like it was no worse than the flu.  That early research I linked was wrong.  The rest of your post is just character assassination.  You get to go into the Grumbler pile of posters I will try not to pay any attention to.

The rest of it, calling attention to how badly the US is dealing with this crisis, stands.  Nationalism is terrible and especially now if you are offended by hearing how terrible your country is doing.

Isn't it about time you run away again to pout?

I'm not really sure why you need to call attention for us to how bad the US is doing. We all see enough news articles here and elsewhere to comprehend the basic facts.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
This Lincoln Project ad is really just 100% trolling Trump.  I like it!

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1280457599884935168

Oh... wow. They aren't pulling any punches...
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Minsky Moment

Down below on their twitter page is a clip of Liz Harrington from the RNC ripping Biden for saying that "all people are created equal" - because the DoI says "all men"

This is where we are  . . .
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

DGuller

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 07, 2020, 11:46:01 AM
OK, fuck off.  The one thing I said that I regret saying is that the death rate looked like it was no worse than the flu.  That early research I linked was wrong.  The rest of your post is just character assassination.  You get to go into the Grumbler pile of posters I will try not to pay any attention to.

The rest of it, calling attention to how badly the US is dealing with this crisis, stands.  Nationalism is terrible and especially now if you are offended by hearing how terrible your country is doing.
What about two million dead children in the US?  Bad early research as well? 

I get that people are going to have a bad take once in a while, but it's wise to consider that possibility and lay off the smug attitude, that makes it easier to walk back.  The reason I bring it up is that you have no right to be smug when you've been smugly saying nonsense so often in the past, and definitely you shouldn't be smug solely based on your accomplishment of being a Canadian.  If you're going to be smug, then at least earn it.

Barrister

Quote from: DGuller on July 07, 2020, 02:27:43 PM
What about two million dead children in the US?  Bad early research as well? 

I get that people are going to have a bad take once in a while, but it's wise to consider that possibility and lay off the smug attitude, that makes it easier to walk back.  The reason I bring it up is that you have no right to be smug when you've been smugly saying nonsense so often in the past, and definitely you shouldn't be smug solely based on your accomplishment of being a Canadian.  If you're going to be smug, then at least earn it.

YOu fail to realize that being smug about being Canadian is practically a defining characteristic of this country. -_-
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

The Larch

Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
This Lincoln Project ad is really just 100% trolling Trump.  I like it!

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1280457599884935168

I recently learned that one of the masterminds behind The Lincoln Project is... Kelly Anne Conway's husband.  :huh:

Barrister

Quote from: The Larch on July 07, 2020, 03:20:57 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2020, 10:44:04 AM
This Lincoln Project ad is really just 100% trolling Trump.  I like it!

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1280457599884935168

I recently learned that one of the masterminds behind The Lincoln Project is... Kelly Anne Conway's husband.  :huh:

Yup.  They have the most interesting political marriage since James Carville - Mary Matalin.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Sheilbh

Yeah and their (anti-Trump) daughter keeps trolling her mum on Tik Tok and accusing her parents of trying to silence her on social media - which drives up the numbers.

I'm not sure how much is sincere and how much is the family that grifts together, stays together.
Let's bomb Russia!

Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 07, 2020, 03:31:43 PM
Yeah and their (anti-Trump) daughter keeps trolling her mum on Tik Tok and accusing her parents of trying to silence her on social media - which drives up the numbers.

I'm not sure how much is sincere and how much is the family that grifts together, stays together.

Not sure why you'd say they're grifters.

Reading up on George, he was up for a few different positions in the Trump administration before he voluntarily pulled his name from consideration, and later became a vocal critic of Trump.  Doesn't sound like a grifter to me.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Admiral Yi

The Lincoln Project ads are a kind of grift.

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien


Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien