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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Sheilbh

Now obviously he doesn't have the power to do this, but given it is still striking seeing an American President calling for minimum sentences of 10 years for defacing monuments in the same week as China imposes the new National Security Law, with all its crazy minimum sentences, on Hong Kong.
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 04, 2020, 07:38:06 AM
Now obviously he doesn't have the power to do this, but given it is still striking seeing an American President calling for minimum sentences of 10 years for defacing monuments in the same week as China imposes the new National Security Law, with all its crazy minimum sentences, on Hong Kong.

I guess if you have been in a coma the last 4 years.
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grumbler

Quote from: garbon on July 04, 2020, 07:54:17 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 04, 2020, 07:38:06 AM
Now obviously he doesn't have the power to do this, but given it is still striking seeing an American President calling for minimum sentences of 10 years for defacing monuments in the same week as China imposes the new National Security Law, with all its crazy minimum sentences, on Hong Kong.

I guess if you have been in a coma the last 4 years.

Yeah, of all the wacky things Trump has said, this rates near the bottom of the "striking" range.  If he'd called for a ten-year minimum sentence for presidents trying to bribe foreign leaders to serve their own political interests, that would have been striking.
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The Larch

Getting culture war pet projects in before the end of the presidency or smokescreen?

QuoteTrump announces creation of 'National Garden' with statues of 'greatest Americans'

President Trump concluded his Friday night Mount Rushmore speech by announcing he has signed an executive order creating a "National Garden of American Heroes."

The president described the garden as a "vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans who ever lived."

An interagency task force will look for potential sites, and the Department of the Interior will provide funding for the garden, which should be open before July 4, 2026 — the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

The executive order reads: "The National Garden should be composed of statues, including statues of John Adams, Susan B. Anthony, Clara Barton, Daniel Boone, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Henry Clay, Davy Crockett, Frederick Douglass, Amelia Earhart, Benjamin Franklin, Billy Graham, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, Jr., Abraham Lincoln, Douglas MacArthur, Dolley Madison, James Madison, Christa McAuliffe, Audie Murphy, George S. Patton, Jr., Ronald Reagan, Jackie Robinson, Betsy Ross, Antonin Scalia, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Harriet Tubman, Booker T. Washington, George Washington, and Orville and Wilbur Wright."

The order notes, "none will have lived perfect lives, but all will be worth honoring, remembering, and studying."

The order also notes the recent toppling and vandalization of historic monuments across the country amid racial injustice protests.

Many of the targeted statues involved Confederate military heroes and historical figures who owned slaves or caused harm to Native Americans.

"My Administration will not abide by an assault on our collective national memory," the order says.

"In the face of such acts of destruction, it is our responsibility as Americans to stand strong against this violence, and to peacefully transmit our great national story to future generations through newly commissioned monuments to American heroes."

Trump, in his pre-firework show speech, expressed similar sentiments, blasting what he called the "angry mobs" who "are trying to tear down statues of our founders."

garbon

I do feel a bit put out that none of my schools put significant time in the curriculum for statuary studies. :weep:
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Eddie Teach

Getting blown up makes you a national hero?  :hmm:
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grumbler

Quote from: garbon on July 04, 2020, 09:04:38 AM
I do feel a bit put out that none of my schools put significant time in the curriculum for statuary studies. :weep:

There should be a statutory requirement.
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Syt

Quote from: The Larch on July 04, 2020, 08:52:52 AM
Getting culture war pet projects in before the end of the presidency or smokescreen?

QuoteTrump announces creation of 'National Garden' with statues of 'greatest Americans'

President Trump concluded his Friday night Mount Rushmore speech by announcing he has signed an executive order creating a "National Garden of American Heroes."

The president described the garden as a "vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans who ever lived."

An interagency task force will look for potential sites, and the Department of the Interior will provide funding for the garden, which should be open before July 4, 2026 — the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

The executive order reads: "The National Garden should be composed of statues, including statues of John Adams, Susan B. Anthony, Clara Barton, Daniel Boone, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Henry Clay, Davy Crockett, Frederick Douglass, Amelia Earhart, Benjamin Franklin, Billy Graham, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, Jr., Abraham Lincoln, Douglas MacArthur, Dolley Madison, James Madison, Christa McAuliffe, Audie Murphy, George S. Patton, Jr., Ronald Reagan, Jackie Robinson, Betsy Ross, Antonin Scalia, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Harriet Tubman, Booker T. Washington, George Washington, and Orville and Wilbur Wright."

The order notes, "none will have lived perfect lives, but all will be worth honoring, remembering, and studying."

The order also notes the recent toppling and vandalization of historic monuments across the country amid racial injustice protests.

Many of the targeted statues involved Confederate military heroes and historical figures who owned slaves or caused harm to Native Americans.

"My Administration will not abide by an assault on our collective national memory," the order says.

"In the face of such acts of destruction, it is our responsibility as Americans to stand strong against this violence, and to peacefully transmit our great national story to future generations through newly commissioned monuments to American heroes."

Trump, in his pre-firework show speech, expressed similar sentiments, blasting what he called the "angry mobs" who "are trying to tear down statues of our founders."

MacArthur and Patton over Eisenhower and Nimitz? :rolleyes:
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frunk

Scalia as the only Supreme Court Justice?  Unless I missed one.

The Larch

Quote from: Syt on July 04, 2020, 09:29:26 AM
Quote from: The Larch on July 04, 2020, 08:52:52 AM
Getting culture war pet projects in before the end of the presidency or smokescreen?

QuoteTrump announces creation of 'National Garden' with statues of 'greatest Americans'

President Trump concluded his Friday night Mount Rushmore speech by announcing he has signed an executive order creating a "National Garden of American Heroes."

The president described the garden as a "vast outdoor park that will feature the statues of the greatest Americans who ever lived."

An interagency task force will look for potential sites, and the Department of the Interior will provide funding for the garden, which should be open before July 4, 2026 — the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

The executive order reads: "The National Garden should be composed of statues, including statues of John Adams, Susan B. Anthony, Clara Barton, Daniel Boone, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Henry Clay, Davy Crockett, Frederick Douglass, Amelia Earhart, Benjamin Franklin, Billy Graham, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, Jr., Abraham Lincoln, Douglas MacArthur, Dolley Madison, James Madison, Christa McAuliffe, Audie Murphy, George S. Patton, Jr., Ronald Reagan, Jackie Robinson, Betsy Ross, Antonin Scalia, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Harriet Tubman, Booker T. Washington, George Washington, and Orville and Wilbur Wright."

The order notes, "none will have lived perfect lives, but all will be worth honoring, remembering, and studying."

The order also notes the recent toppling and vandalization of historic monuments across the country amid racial injustice protests.

Many of the targeted statues involved Confederate military heroes and historical figures who owned slaves or caused harm to Native Americans.

"My Administration will not abide by an assault on our collective national memory," the order says.

"In the face of such acts of destruction, it is our responsibility as Americans to stand strong against this violence, and to peacefully transmit our great national story to future generations through newly commissioned monuments to American heroes."

Trump, in his pre-firework show speech, expressed similar sentiments, blasting what he called the "angry mobs" who "are trying to tear down statues of our founders."

MacArthur and Patton over Eisenhower and Nimitz? :rolleyes:

I guess they used GI Joe criteria for the WW2 ones.

Isn't Billy Graham also a controversial one? Or Reagan?

Razgovory

The WW2 picks have movies made about them.  That's why Trump dropped those names.
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11B4V

Oh how rich Mr. Prez. I can't imagine your status would not be there. :rolleyes:
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11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Eddie Teach

Quote from: 11B4V on July 04, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
Oh how rich Mr. Prez. I can't imagine your status would not be there. :rolleyes:

It would get ditched pretty quick once he left office.
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Solmyr

Who sneaked Harriet Tubman onto that list?