What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Oexmelin]

"White House officials also hope Americans will grow numb to the escalating death toll and learn to accept tens of thousands of new cases a day, according to three people familiar with the White House's thinking, who requested anonymity to reveal internal deliberations. Americans will "live with the virus being a threat," in the words of one of those people, a senior administration official."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-and-biden-campaigns-shift-focus-to-coronavirus-as-pandemic-surges/2020/07/06/53a4ec50-bd62-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0Zz6dI-X95BhRbjQMcVybEg4pLA5wZvQKEvK7EsK21fBLK_BXMdOQv0BM

[Razgovory]

CC, pointing out the obvious is rarely helpful.  This is akin to telling starving people that they haven't eaten enough.

[garbon]

Yes, that's my fucking point. My fellow country men are dying and I'm worried about the safety of my friends and family. And yet, despite even making a personal appeal, you can't get it through your thick head that this might not be the time to continuously point out how America is failing its populace / that said populace is part of the reason for the failure.

It might be all of an intellectual topic to you, but it isn't too me. 

Let it go.  Ghouls revel in death, and you are never going to change that. 

Okay, sorry.

[DGuller]

CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

[merithyn]

Yes, that's my fucking point. My fellow country men are dying and I'm worried about the safety of my friends and family. And yet, despite even making a personal appeal, you can't get it through your thick head that this might not be the time to continuously point out how America is failing its populace / that said populace is part of the reason for the failure.

It might be all of an intellectual topic to you, but it isn't too me. 

Let it go.  Ghouls revel in death, and you are never going to change that. 

Okay, sorry.

[The Minsky Moment]

Pointing out the obvious may not be helpful but can be understandable where an entire great nation appears unable to grasp the obvious as a matter of national policy. 
It's not like there is no consequence for the rest of the world.  The virus itself is oblivious to the Canadian and Mexican borders, and carriers who travel by air take it with them.

[crazy canuck]

CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

Yeah, I am not the only one who makes the point.  But for some reason I am revel in American deaths.  It is kind of like the attacks I see a lot on Twitter whenever someone points out what is happening in the US.  Somehow that is cheering on people dying.  I am not sure where this sort of thinking comes from but it is amazing to me that suggest that talking about the causes of the worst crisis to hit the world since global warming is something that should not be discussed.

Perhaps the reality is just too disturbing for some.  I get that.  But as I said to Garbon, why shoot the messenger when there are obvious causes you can better turn your anger toward.

Or perhaps the answer is the community has become so toxic that it is just not possible to have that sort of discussion.  I just noticed Grumbles that post.  That may be the simple answer.

[garbon]

Pointing out the obvious may not be helpful but can be understandable where an entire great nation appears unable to grasp the obvious as a matter of national policy. 
It's not like there is no consequence for the rest of the world.  The virus itself is oblivious to the Canadian and Mexican borders, and carriers who travel by air take it with them.

Preaching to the choir?

[Eddie Teach]

Beating a dead horse.

[PDH]

I like pancakes.

[grumbler]

Pointing out the obvious may not be helpful but can be understandable where an entire great nation appears unable to grasp the obvious as a matter of national policy. 
It's not like there is no consequence for the rest of the world.  The virus itself is oblivious to the Canadian and Mexican borders, and carriers who travel by air take it with them.

Pointing out the obvious to people who already understand and have expressed concern with the obvious is only understandable if the objective is not to educate, but to gloat.  It's not like CC gloating here is going to change any US government policies.

[viper37]

Meanwhile, the Trump administration is requiring of international students to attend classes in person to keep their visas.  Students taking only on-line classes will be evicted from the country.
Link


on another note, I see Fox News changed their headline about Ghislaine Maxwell.  They now only say she is transferred to Brooklyn jail. previously, there was the added line "where she is allegedly ready to spill the beans".
Gee.  If you wanted her mysteriously "suicided", that was a great headline.

[DGuller]

CC, your analysis is deep and penetrating, but I can't help but feel like it's a waste of your talents.  Other people have come to the same conclusions, so how much value do your contributions really add?  Maybe the world would be better off if you dedicated your considerable analytic skills towards proving Riemann hypothesis, or something of that nature?

Yeah, I am not the only one who makes the point.  But for some reason I am revel in American deaths.  It is kind of like the attacks I see a lot on Twitter whenever someone points out what is happening in the US.  Somehow that is cheering on people dying.  I am not sure where this sort of thinking comes from but it is amazing to me that suggest that talking about the causes of the worst crisis to hit the world since global warming is something that should not be discussed.

Perhaps the reality is just too disturbing for some.  I get that.  But as I said to Garbon, why shoot the messenger when there are obvious causes you can better turn your anger toward.

Or perhaps the answer is the community has become so toxic that it is just not possible to have that sort of discussion.  I just noticed Grumbles that post.  That may be the simple answer.

I think there are a lot of different reasons people are taking your posts the way they do.  One of them is your tone.  I think you had more than your share of pretty bad interpretations of current events recently, and yet the arrogance and smugness with which you share your interpretations never abates.  I think most people would lay low for a while after a series of bad takes, especially if those bad takes were delivered in a lecturing tone, but you keep at it without a hint of added humility.  This isn't the only reason people take your posts the way they do, but it's a force multiplier.

[Barrister]

This Lincoln Project ad is really just 100% trolling Trump.  I like it!

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1280457599884935168

[Razgovory]