What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[garbon]

That's been my concern throughout this discussion.  I think people expect democracies to be sidelined with some crafty work of a sleazy lawyer who finds all the right technicalities, but in reality with sufficient popular support it just takes some nominal bullshit and a Putin smirk.

My concern throughout this discussion is the assumptions of people like you that US civil servants, military members, jdueges, lawyers, bureaucrats, etc are just willing to sell out their entire careers for "some nominal bullshit and a Putin smirk."  If you are right and I am wrong, then there's nothing to defend in the US or western system, and your dire predictions may as well come about this as next year, since nothing can save the system you describe for more than a year or so.

Personally, I think it is just that you, Timmay, CC, and others* just love to wallow in your own doomsday scenarios.

Edit: and Meri.

Unfortunately "It can't happen here" != it can't happen here. Also, your position that a democracy at risk isn't worth defending isn't universally shared.

I can accept the notion that the US is the least vulnerable democracy around, but that indeed doesn't make it invulnerable. And this attitude of "it can't happen here because this is America" sounds to me exactly like the British attitude toward Brexit or the pandemic.

Sad given no one has made such a claim of America being innately special. Well maybe Hamilcar but he was just setting up a strawman.

[Solmyr]

I think a good litmus test of whether the military would go along with a Trump coup will be whether they will obey him now and start shooting protesting US citizens.

[grumbler]

The only winning move with grumbler is to realize he isn't real.

Not that anyone should be concerned with "winning."  The prize isn't so great.

[grumbler]

Unfortunately "It can't happen here" != it can't happen here.

And when you find somebody who is arguing that, you are ready! 

Also, your position that a democracy at risk isn't worth defending isn't universally shared.

It is a position so un-universal that not even I share it.  And please make your strawman arguments at least somewhat plausible; this one is so bad even I am embarrassed for you.

[Habbaku]

Can we please not turn this into a roleplaying forum?

Hasn't this been a roleplaying/strategy forum since its inception?

There's a huge difference between a roleplaying-game forum and a roleplaying forum. Grumbler's creepy asterisks verges on the latter.

[The Brain]

Unfortunately "It can't happen here" != it can't happen here.

And when you find somebody who is arguing that, you are ready! 

Also, your position that a democracy at risk isn't worth defending isn't universally shared.

It is a position so un-universal that not even I share it.  And please make your strawman arguments at least somewhat plausible; this one is so bad even I am embarrassed for you.

If you don't remember your posts you can always go back and read them again, boomer.

[grumbler]

There's a huge difference between a roleplaying-game forum and a roleplaying forum. Grumbler's creepy asterisks verges on the latter.

   What are you drinking this early in the morning?  Creepy asterisks?

[grumbler]

If you don't remember your posts you can always go back and read them again, boomer.

I remember my posts quite clearly, boomer, and if you think you can quote me as saying that a democracy at risk isn't worth defending, I invite you to try.

But you might want to consider the First Rule of Holes.

[The Brain]

If you don't remember your posts you can always go back and read them again, boomer.

I remember my posts quite clearly, boomer, and if you think you can quote me as saying that a democracy at risk isn't worth defending, I invite you to try.

But you might want to consider the First Rule of Holes.

I realized back in 2003 that trying to have a detailed discussion with you isn't worth it. So I'm happy to discuss things with you, but I'll pass on explaining the details.

[grumbler]

I realized back in 2003 that trying to have a detailed discussion with you isn't worth it. So I'm happy to discuss things with you, but I'll pass on explaining the details.

  Not a very graceful concession, but I'll take it.

[mongers]

I realized back in 2003 that trying to have a detailed discussion with you isn't worth it. So I'm happy to discuss things with you, but I'll pass on explaining the details.

  Not a very graceful concession, but I'll take it.

Words never to be spoken by Joe Biden.

[Eddie Teach]

What about Corn Pop?

[The Brain]

I realized back in 2003 that trying to have a detailed discussion with you isn't worth it. So I'm happy to discuss things with you, but I'll pass on explaining the details.

  Not a very graceful concession, but I'll take it.

You appear confused.

[Habbaku]

He dodders a bit. Best to avoid, Brain, but I think you already know that.

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump holds a Bible like it burns his hands to touch it.

For those inclined to that belief system, seems to me Trump would be a pretty good fit for the Antichrist.