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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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merithyn

Quote from: grumbler on April 27, 2020, 01:07:58 PM

Actually, that was in response to what was, for Trump, a pretty funny line (... the State Department or, as well like to call it, the deep State department...)

Sure, but that's not to say that it's not useful in so many other ways.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Syt

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1254893704650936326?s=20

Trump: "There has been so much unnecessary death in this country. It could have been stopped and it could have been stopped short, but somebody a long time ago, it seems, decided not to do it that way. And the whole world is suffering because of it."
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Grey Fox

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Maladict

Quote from: Syt on April 28, 2020, 07:01:04 AM
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1254893704650936326?s=20

Trump: "There has been so much unnecessary death in this country. It could have been stopped and it could have been stopped short, but somebody a long time ago, it seems, decided not to do it that way. And the whole world is suffering because of it."

February does seem like a long time ago, to be fair.

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

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Syt

The Mayo Clinic requires everyone on campus to wear facemasks. This doesn't seem to apply to Vice President Pence: https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1255193968809250823?s=20
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Oexmelin

Trump proposes new concoction to fight COVID-19.

QuoteWASHINGTON—Darting between dozens of beakers filled with colorful solutions, President Donald Trump reportedly stated "a dash of soap bubbles, two pinches of sunshine, and just a drop of imagination," Friday while pouring ingredients into a fizzing concoction. "Let's shake in a dollop of tickles, an ounce of regret, and a single shooting star, then stir counterclockwise for two shakes of a lamb's tail and we're almost there," said Trump, clapping his hands with glee as he began pedaling a bicycle connected to a bellows in order to fan the flame below the vials. "Add sugar, spice, and everything nice. Don't forget the amnesia powder! Then it's simply a matter of sprinkling dewdrops and moonbeams to taste, drizzling with a healthy dose of dream reduction, and voila! My splendiferous, fantabulous amalgamation will be complete!" At press time, the president was reportedly coughing up black smoke after accidentally blowing up the White House.

https://www.theonion.com/a-dash-of-soap-bubbles-2-pinches-of-sunshine-and-jus-1843051293?fbclid=IwAR2DBRxoRmtNg07Pii4M6JcEkUEHUiBxntnacKUrwVbv_Bjjs7SUr2DyI78
Que le grand cric me croque !

Eddie Teach

Not believable. Trump doesn't have the whimsy.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

DGuller

Quote from: Oexmelin on April 28, 2020, 11:40:37 PM
Trump proposes new concoction to fight COVID-19.

QuoteWASHINGTON—Darting between dozens of beakers filled with colorful solutions, President Donald Trump reportedly stated "a dash of soap bubbles, two pinches of sunshine, and just a drop of imagination," Friday while pouring ingredients into a fizzing concoction. "Let's shake in a dollop of tickles, an ounce of regret, and a single shooting star, then stir counterclockwise for two shakes of a lamb's tail and we're almost there," said Trump, clapping his hands with glee as he began pedaling a bicycle connected to a bellows in order to fan the flame below the vials. "Add sugar, spice, and everything nice. Don't forget the amnesia powder! Then it's simply a matter of sprinkling dewdrops and moonbeams to taste, drizzling with a healthy dose of dream reduction, and voila! My splendiferous, fantabulous amalgamation will be complete!" At press time, the president was reportedly coughing up black smoke after accidentally blowing up the White House.

https://www.theonion.com/a-dash-of-soap-bubbles-2-pinches-of-sunshine-and-jus-1843051293?fbclid=IwAR2DBRxoRmtNg07Pii4M6JcEkUEHUiBxntnacKUrwVbv_Bjjs7SUr2DyI78
The last couple of years have been really tough for The Onion.  :(

The Larch

Quote from: DGuller on April 29, 2020, 12:04:41 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 28, 2020, 11:40:37 PM
Trump proposes new concoction to fight COVID-19.

QuoteWASHINGTON—Darting between dozens of beakers filled with colorful solutions, President Donald Trump reportedly stated "a dash of soap bubbles, two pinches of sunshine, and just a drop of imagination," Friday while pouring ingredients into a fizzing concoction. "Let's shake in a dollop of tickles, an ounce of regret, and a single shooting star, then stir counterclockwise for two shakes of a lamb's tail and we're almost there," said Trump, clapping his hands with glee as he began pedaling a bicycle connected to a bellows in order to fan the flame below the vials. "Add sugar, spice, and everything nice. Don't forget the amnesia powder! Then it's simply a matter of sprinkling dewdrops and moonbeams to taste, drizzling with a healthy dose of dream reduction, and voila! My splendiferous, fantabulous amalgamation will be complete!" At press time, the president was reportedly coughing up black smoke after accidentally blowing up the White House.

https://www.theonion.com/a-dash-of-soap-bubbles-2-pinches-of-sunshine-and-jus-1843051293?fbclid=IwAR2DBRxoRmtNg07Pii4M6JcEkUEHUiBxntnacKUrwVbv_Bjjs7SUr2DyI78
The last couple of years have been really tough for The Onion.  :(

I haven't been following lately, but I think they can still land their punches:

QuoteTrump Accuses New York Of Padding State's Mortality Rate By Including African American Deaths

WASHINGTON—Dismissing the statistics as "totally overblown," President Donald Trump publicly accused New York health officials Monday of inflating the state's Covid-19 mortality rate by including African Americans in their calculations of the total dead. "It's very unfair if you start adding in a bunch of people who died of the virus but were also very clearly black," said Trump, who pointed to Texas, with its incomplete data-gathering and low rates of testing in minority communities, as a model other states should emulate. "Obviously, if you count blacks, it's going to throw off your estimates of how bad this thing is. We're doing a fantastic job containing the virus, but sadly some governors are stooping so low as to fake their numbers—not only with blacks, but with people born in other countries, too. You gotta ask whether they're just doing this to try and make me look bad." The president went on to demand that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo personally apologize to him for harboring African Americans to begin with.

Sheilbh

He really is like an angry and racist version of the monorail salesman in the Simpsons :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

Syt

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 29, 2020, 05:08:02 AM
He really is like an angry and racist version of the monorail salesman in the Simpsons :mellow:

https://stoehr.substack.com/p/trumps-ersatz-phallic-exercise

QuoteTrump's 'Ersatz Phallic Exercise'

It's a common question. What have the president's ordinary supporters gotten out of their deal with him? The answer is just as common—not much. Before the pandemic, the only material outcome of backing Donald Trump was a slight decrease in their federal income taxes. Other than that, gains have been performative, not substantive.

Some say that's enough to sink an incumbent. If he can't deliver for his base, then he can't win reelection. If he presides over a fragile economy, as is currently the case, then he's bound to lose. But what most people don't understand is that Trump is delivering, and he will keep delivering even if the economy collapses. The deliverable doesn't come in the shape of economics, policy or law. It's entirely psychological.

Think of it this way. Remember those men at "anti-quarantine protests" strolling around state capitols carrying semi-automatic rifles? They said they were protesting stay-at-home orders. They said their goal was demonstrating their rights to bear arms, individual liberty and personal sovereignty. But that wasn't their immediate goal.

Their goal was intimidating peaceful and unarmed protesters. Their goal was deriving pleasure from the fear of seeing men brandishing weapons the likes of which have massacred thousands in mass shootings around the country for the last decade and a half. Their goal was savoring the flavor of gaslighting someone into thinking their goals were high-minded and pure rather than what they were: low and barbarous.

"Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters," wrote Umberto Eco in his 1995 classic, "Ur-Fascism." "This is the origin of machismo. ... Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons—doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise." (Many thanks to Charles Sykes for reminding me of Eco's essay.)

I've tried coining a phrase capturing the essence of Trump, but I don't think I'll ever come close to the elegance and accuracy of "ersatz phallic exercise." This is what the president delivers. This is what he will continue to deliver even if the US economy falls into a full-blown depression. Trumpism is a mirror—a fetish you might say—more than it is a political ideology. The key to understanding his presidency isn't what it is but what it isn't. It isn't governing according to morality, the Constitution and the law for the benefit of all Americans. That takes lots of time. That takes lots of labor. That's not nearly as fun as swinging your phallus around to the horror of the "snowflakes."

"Ersatz phallic exercise" helps explain one of Trumpism's key contradictions. On the one hand, supporters say that he's manly man, and that his manly manliness is why liberals, Democrats and Never-Trumpers hate him. On the other, Trump is a fire hose of whining. He pules and keens at the slightest offense, real and imagined, but mostly imagined. He can't take hard questioning. He'll blame anyone for his mistakes. You'd think a manly man would have skin made of iron. Trump's is made of onion paper.

But that doesn't matter to his supporters, because consequences don't matter, and consequences don't matter, because there's always a way of escaping accountability when intellectual dishonesty is the lens through which one engages the world. What matters is impulse, urge, appetite, an itch, and other neurological bliss points. You don't swing your phallus around wondering what the outcomes might be. You swing it around, because your reptile brain demands that you swing it around. If you need a reason for horrifying some bystanders, you can later on fabricate one out of thin air.

Those who take responsibility for their actions will always seem weak to those who do not take responsibility for their actions. That's just the way things are. But let's not pretend "ersatz phallic exercises" are tougher, stronger and manlier than virtue.
"Virtue" is derived from the Latin vir, which means "man." Virtue, among ancient Romans leaders, who were nothing if not men's men, privileged it above all other qualities, as it connoted valor, excellence, courage, and the strength of character. Real virtue is harder to put into practice. It takes lots of time. It takes lots of labor.

Even so, it too can be a source of profit and pleasure.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

jimmy olsen

#25408
Quote from: DGuller on April 29, 2020, 12:04:41 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 28, 2020, 11:40:37 PM
Trump proposes new concoction to fight COVID-19.

QuoteWASHINGTON—Darting between dozens of beakers filled with colorful solutions, President Donald Trump reportedly stated "a dash of soap bubbles, two pinches of sunshine, and just a drop of imagination," Friday while pouring ingredients into a fizzing concoction. "Let's shake in a dollop of tickles, an ounce of regret, and a single shooting star, then stir counterclockwise for two shakes of a lamb's tail and we're almost there," said Trump, clapping his hands with glee as he began pedaling a bicycle connected to a bellows in order to fan the flame below the vials. "Add sugar, spice, and everything nice. Don't forget the amnesia powder! Then it's simply a matter of sprinkling dewdrops and moonbeams to taste, drizzling with a healthy dose of dream reduction, and voila! My splendiferous, fantabulous amalgamation will be complete!" At press time, the president was reportedly coughing up black smoke after accidentally blowing up the White House.

https://www.theonion.com/a-dash-of-soap-bubbles-2-pinches-of-sunshine-and-jus-1843051293?fbclid=IwAR2DBRxoRmtNg07Pii4M6JcEkUEHUiBxntnacKUrwVbv_Bjjs7SUr2DyI78
The last couple of years have been really tough for The Onion.  :(
They actually predicted his insanity a month early.

https://www.ccn.com/of-course-the-onion-predicted-trumps-insane-lysol-theory/
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Eddie Teach

Who were the protesters the dudes with guns were trying to intimidate? Their own side?
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