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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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FunkMonk

#20475
October 30, 2018, 06:53:08 AM
Donald says he is going to repeal the 14th Amendment by executive order.  :lmfao:
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Grey Fox

#20476
October 30, 2018, 06:56:30 AM Last Edit: October 30, 2018, 08:29:25 AM by Grey Fox
Watch him do it & congress or the supreme court not oppose him.

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jimmy olsen

#20477
October 30, 2018, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 30, 2018, 06:56:30 AM
Watch him do it & congress or the supreme court not oppose him.

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The courts have shot down a ton of his orders and he's just shut up and taken it. This will be no different if he even bothers. 50/50 he's just throwing out red meat to drive up election turn out.
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grumbler

#20478
October 30, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 30, 2018, 06:53:08 AM
Donald says he is going to repeal the 14th Amendment by executive order.  :lmfao:

Cite?
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#20479
October 30, 2018, 08:11:07 AM
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Malthus

#20480
October 30, 2018, 08:15:12 AM
It's not that he's repealing it. He's relying on an interpretation of it that holds that, where the amendment states that birthright citizenship only applies to children 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the US, that means they must be born to legal immigrants or citizens.

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grumbler

#20481
October 30, 2018, 08:34:15 AM
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grumbler

#20482
October 30, 2018, 08:38:18 AM
Quote from: Malthus on October 30, 2018, 08:15:12 AM
It's not that he's repealing it. He's relying on an interpretation of it that holds that, where the amendment states that birthright citizenship only applies to children 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the US, that means they must be born to legal immigrants or citizens.

yeah, but the argument that the US government has no jurisdiction over illegal immigrants or visa holders seems kinda insane.  If Trump is right, he cannot do anything about illegal immigrants or those who hold visas, because he lacks jurisdiction.  I'm sure illegal immigrants would trade the right of their children to US citizenship in exchange for immunity to US law.
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Legbiter

#20483
October 30, 2018, 08:40:22 AM
Sounds like red meat for his base on the eve of the midterms. That and trolling the libs.  :hmm:
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Malthus

#20484
October 30, 2018, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: grumbler on October 30, 2018, 08:38:18 AM
Quote from: Malthus on October 30, 2018, 08:15:12 AM
It's not that he's repealing it. He's relying on an interpretation of it that holds that, where the amendment states that birthright citizenship only applies to children 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the US, that means they must be born to legal immigrants or citizens.

yeah, but the argument that the US government has no jurisdiction over illegal immigrants or visa holders seems kinda insane.  If Trump is right, he cannot do anything about illegal immigrants or those who hold visas, because he lacks jurisdiction.  I'm sure illegal immigrants would trade the right of their children to US citizenship in exchange for immunity to US law.

Admittedly an interpretation unlikely to withstand court challenge. I assume the point isn't to actually get it implemented, but merely to stir up his supporters, to create the narrative in their minds that Trump would 'get things done' if it was not for these pesky courts.

Still an act of folly, but not quite as egregious as actually attempting to repeal a constitutional amendment by executive order.
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Tamas

#20485
October 30, 2018, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on October 30, 2018, 08:40:22 AM
Sounds like red meat for his base on the eve of the midterms. That and trolling the libs.  :hmm:

I am having serious de ja vu. Like fucking Hungary all over again.

There are all kinds of REAL issues, but everyone on both sides are getting foam-mouthed over immigration.  Or sometimes toilet permissions. The right throws in some fucking decoy bone to chew on, the left jumps on it with fervour, the right makes them look like bloody morons, the right wins.

Valmy

#20486
October 30, 2018, 09:17:02 AM Last Edit: October 30, 2018, 09:19:09 AM by Valmy
Again it may be that I live in Texas or it may be just the way these issues play to the population but the only people who talk about the immigration issue and the toilet thing are the right. The left just ignores them completely, at least in their political strategies. I think the left only brings these things up in the exact same situations the right will, in elections where they think that is a winning issue. So I don't think it is a decoy any more than any other political strategy is.

Ok I think I saw an ad that was like 'While Republicans waste their time talking about bathrooms they are allowing property taxes to skyrocket and schools to crumble...' or something like that. So it could be just my geographical location that shields me from all the fervor about bathrooms and immigration going on in this election.
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#20487
October 30, 2018, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 30, 2018, 09:10:52 AMI am having serious de ja vu. Like fucking Hungary all over again.

There are all kinds of REAL issues, but everyone on both sides are getting foam-mouthed over immigration.  Or sometimes toilet permissions. The right throws in some fucking decoy bone to chew on, the left jumps on it with fervour, the right makes them look like bloody morons, the right wins.

They can't help themselves. They need the views and clicks Trump garners them so they always let him play the circus ringmaster and jump through his flaming hoops. Pavlovian at this point. And thus Trump controls the news cycle and gets attention.
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Valmy

#20488
October 30, 2018, 09:20:17 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on October 30, 2018, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 30, 2018, 09:10:52 AMI am having serious de ja vu. Like fucking Hungary all over again.

There are all kinds of REAL issues, but everyone on both sides are getting foam-mouthed over immigration.  Or sometimes toilet permissions. The right throws in some fucking decoy bone to chew on, the left jumps on it with fervour, the right makes them look like bloody morons, the right wins.

They can't help themselves. They need the views and clicks Trump garners them so they always let him play the circus ringmaster and jump through his flaming hoops. Pavlovian at this point. And thus Trump controls the news cycle and gets attention.

The left needs views and clicks? Why do they need views and clicks? I think they want votes :hmm:
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Tamas

#20489
October 30, 2018, 09:21:23 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 30, 2018, 09:17:02 AM
Again it may be that I live in Texas or it may be just the way these issues play to the population but the only people who talk about the immigration issue and the toilet thing are the right. The left just ignores them completely, at least in their political strategies. I think the left only brings these things up in the exact same situations the right will, in elections where they think that is a winning issue. So I don't think it is a decoy any more than any other political strategy is.

Ok I think I saw an ad that was like 'While Republicans waste their time talking about bathrooms they are allowing property taxes to skyrocket and schools to crumble...' or something like that. So it could be just my geographical location that shields me from all the fervor about bathrooms and immigration going on in this election.

that's nice what I mean though is shit like this 14th ammendment thing. He casually drops in some stupid unrealistic shit like that and it explodes everywhere and for weeks it will be discussed, and the Left will be looking as trying to garner rights for illegal immigrants.
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