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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tamas

BTW I accidently clicked on the first page of this thread, from 2016. You guys are proving correct.


Also BTW: can you imagine just a few years ago, what, 2014, we lived n a world where half the news weren't either Trump or Brexit? Surreal.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Tamas on October 29, 2018, 09:19:47 AM
BTW I accidently clicked on the first page of this thread, from 2016. You guys are proving correct.


Also BTW: can you imagine just a few years ago, what, 2014, we lived n a world where half the news weren't either Trump or Brexit? Surreal.

It is frightening to think of how quickly it has happened.

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Quote from: Barrister on October 29, 2018, 12:41:40 AM
But my sister-in-law insisted on going out to vote at the Brazilian colsulate for Bolsonaro, even though it was Thanksgiving weekend in Canada.  When asked about it had nothing to do with "fascism" - but rather a lingering disgust with the prior 15 years of leftist rule, which of course included a number of corruption prosecutions.
That's how democracy dies.  People don't bother to think through the danger of voting for fascists just to express disgust with the current politicians.  We're in for a dark period.

:yes:  and this is why it has happened so quickly - how can voting for a fascist have nothing to do with voting for a fascist?

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Quote from: Tamas on October 29, 2018, 06:33:36 AM
Also, allegedly, a recent poll showed that if the previous Prez wasn't in jail due to corruption, he would have won this election.


If that's true, portraying this guy as winning on genuine anti-corruption feelings is misleading.

Clearly, he has won for the same reason his ilk have been winning: a lot of people are mean bastards, and it has become socially okay to be like that and to cast your votes along those lines.

It's true - Lula remains popular, and there is no way to read the election returns without concluding that there exists a significant voting bloc that would have voted Lula but voted Bolsanaro instead. 

No doubt there are some that would vote for anyone or anything that would put down the "leftists" but at a high level what is going on here is competing personality cults.  Haddad didn't lose because he is associated with a corrupt party, he lost because he isn't a raging egomaniac with a mass cult following.
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Tamas

Quoteraging egomaniac with a mass cult following.


That does seem like a global pattern nowadays indeed.

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Quote from: Tamas on October 29, 2018, 11:08:52 AM
Quoteraging egomaniac with a mass cult following.


That does seem like a global pattern nowadays indeed.

Yep.  Thanks Obama :ph34r: :P
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Valmy

I knew you were going to say that  :lol:

We just need more centrist cult leaders. 'I represent the church of economic orthodoxy!'
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Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2018, 12:55:23 PM
I knew you were going to say that  :lol:

We just need more centrist cult leaders. 'I represent the church of economic orthodoxy!'

I would worship at the church of Milton Friedman...
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on October 29, 2018, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2018, 12:55:23 PM
I knew you were going to say that  :lol:

We just need more centrist cult leaders. 'I represent the church of economic orthodoxy!'

I would worship at the church of Milton Friedman...

I said CENTRIST damnit! :P
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2018, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 29, 2018, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2018, 12:55:23 PM
I knew you were going to say that  :lol:

We just need more centrist cult leaders. 'I represent the church of economic orthodoxy!'

I would worship at the church of Milton Friedman...

I said CENTRIST damnit! :P

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I thought his central findings were by now fairly generally accepted.  It's like I said the church of Friedrich Hayek or anything.
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Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process. This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!

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Quote from: mongers on October 29, 2018, 07:30:47 PM
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@realDonaldTrump    10h
Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process. This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!

:rolleyes:

It's like Europe 2015 if you change gang member to terrorist.
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