What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[LaCroix]

so, how will devos impact education that is controlled by the states?

[The Minsky Moment]

Badly is a good first surmise.

[LaCroix]

if she will badly impact education, then what's the fuss?

[LaCroix]

heh

[Berkut]

So Trump out and out lied some more - this time about how the murder rate is the highest in 45 or so years.

It is actually almost the lowest its been in 50 years.

The GOP doesn't call him on it of course, because they stand on principles and ideals, rather than partisan posturing.

[DontSayBanana]

so, how will devos impact education that is controlled by the states?

Not good.  Remember, public schools includes state and community colleges as well.  Here's NJ HESAA's 2015 annual report, financial disclosures on pp. 36-7.  For FY2015, HESAA alone relied on federal funding for just over $6 million out of $7.4 billion total in assets.

Looking through other disclosures, my elementary school relied on $534k in federal revenues, grants, etc. to pad out a $2.5mil budget (over 20%).  My high school was not heavily reliant on fed dollars, though- about $80k out of about $8mil.

EDIT: Also, don't forget that there are indirect impacts as well as potential line item slashes- those districts are heavily funded by state agencies that are themselves reliant on federal revenue.

[Berkut]

Don't answer questions like that - you are just playing right into their hands.

If they think that the DOE should be gotten rid of - fine, that is a policy position that is defensible on its merits.

But putting someone as completely incompetent as Davos in charge of it because she gave you cash is NOT defensible, regardless of what you think about the long term future of the DoE.

The issue here with her nomination and approval has nothing to do with what anyone thinks the federal governments role in public education ought to be, and the support Republicans are showing for her betrays the basic lack of principle that informs them.

[LaCroix]

Not good.  Remember, public schools includes state and community colleges as well.  Here's NJ HESAA's 2015 annual report, financial disclosures on pp. 36-7.  For FY2015, HESAA alone relied on federal funding for just over $6 million out of $7.4 billion total in assets.

Looking through other disclosures, my elementary school relied on $534k in federal revenues, grants, etc. to pad out a $2.5mil budget (over 20%).  My high school was not heavily reliant on fed dollars, though- about $80k out of about $8mil.

EDIT: Also, don't forget that there are indirect impacts as well as potential line item slashes- those districts are heavily funded by state agencies that are themselves reliant on federal revenue.

has devos suggested she wants to hurt state and community colleges? if so, in what way?

does your elementary school itemize the fed funding it received? if so, what were the main areas? I mean, things like $ to feed poor people are probably gone. maybe $ for computers and things like that. does it have to do with teacher's unions? if the funding is anything related to things like these, then maybe it'll be a net benefit to cut the fat from our school systems

[LaCroix]

Don't answer questions like that - you are just playing right into their hands.

If they think that the DOE should be gotten rid of - fine, that is a policy position that is defensible on its merits.

But putting someone as completely incompetent as Davos in charge of it because she gave you cash is NOT defensible, regardless of what you think about the long term future of the DoE.

The issue here with her nomination and approval has nothing to do with what anyone thinks the federal governments role in public education ought to be, and the support Republicans are showing for her betrays the basic lack of principle that informs them.

did the guy who voted her in say he did it for the cash? maybe it had more to do with the reasons the other people voted her in

[CountDeMoney]

Good time to abolish the Department of Education

It's not the only department that should be abolished.  DHS should be on the block, as well as Energy, Agriculture, Labor, and Veterans Affairs.

Nah, just the one that ensures niggers and cripples have a civil right to a public education, that'll be good enough for him.

[grumbler]

Don't answer questions like that - you are just playing right into their hands.

If they think that the DOE should be gotten rid of - fine, that is a policy position that is defensible on its merits.

But putting someone as completely incompetent as Davos in charge of it because she gave you cash is NOT defensible, regardless of what you think about the long term future of the DoE.

The issue here with her nomination and approval has nothing to do with what anyone thinks the federal governments role in public education ought to be, and the support Republicans are showing for her betrays the basic lack of principle that informs them.

That is true, but, at the same time, I don't think that the confirmation or otherwise of DeVos is anything more than symbolic.  Any candidate Trump would put forward would oversee an education department that is uninterested in enforcing federal laws and regulations.  Campuses will be a little more rapey, discrimination of various types a little more open, and religion a little more intrusive, not matter if DeVos or Nimrod #43 is Secretary of Education.  That position exists only because there is a large public employee union involved in education.

[grumbler]

Good time to abolish the Department of Education

It's not the only department that should be abolished.  DHS should be on the block, as well as Energy, Agriculture, Labor, and Veterans Affairs.

Nah, just the one that ensures niggers and cripples have a civil right to a public education, that'll be good enough for him.

There are not enough functions in the departments I mentioned to justify an independent department.  There never was.  They were all created as political sops of one kind or another.

[derspiess]

Trump did apparently cause Lena Dunham to lose weight.  You guys gotta give him that

http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/06/lena-dunham-weight-trump-howard-stern/

[LaCroix]

I struggle to see how this is a devos/trump issue when it seems more like the core of the complaint is a democrat isn't in office. her lack of qualifications being the fuel that adds more fire, but it doesn't even sound like the position does a whole lot.

education is a top 3 democrat issue, and "department of education" contains the word education, and "head of DOE" contains a word that means leader, but these are probably the core reasons for utter rage sweeping #socialmedia

[CountDeMoney]

There are not enough functions in the departments I mentioned to justify an independent department.  There never was.  They were all created as political sops of one kind or another.

You want to swing their Office of Civil Rights under Justice, let's do this shit.  I'm all about going full Waco on shitty red state schools that don't put in wheelchair ramps.