What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[derspiess]

Shocked.  Had Obama talked to the Taiwan president you'd have been totally on board, telling us how expert a move it was.

Shocked.  Had Obama talked to the Taiwan president you'd have been totally apeshit, telling us how stupid and inexperienced a move it was.

No.

[Ed Anger]

...  I would rather debate with an imbecile than a liar...

Luckily for us, we don't have to make that choice when debating you.

Grumber has run in to the ring and hits the Russian with a chair! OH MY GAWD

[grumbler]

Shocked.  Had Obama talked to the Taiwan president you'd have been totally on board, telling us how expert a move it was.

Shocked.  Had Obama talked to the Taiwan president you'd have been totally apeshit, telling us how stupid and inexperienced a move it was.

No.

Bullshit.  I don't think you have changed a bit since the start of November.

[Syt]

...  I would rather debate with an imbecile than a liar...

Luckily for us, we don't have to make that choice when debating you.

Grumber has run in to the ring and hits the Russian with a chair! OH MY GAWD

IT'S A SLOBBERKNOCKER!

[mongers]

Don't forget vain. Obama was so vain, couldn't stop talking about himself. That was such a big problem. Good thing the next White House will be the epitome of restraint and selflessness.

He hasn't said/tweeted anything stupid today, has he?

[CountDeMoney]

Don't forget vain. Obama was so vain, couldn't stop talking about himself. That was such a big problem. Good thing the next White House will be the epitome of restraint and selflessness.

He hasn't said/tweeted anything stupid today, has he?

He's just been threatening companies this morning, that's all.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

[Habbaku]

Don't talk about your love of democracy, Mr. "Let's get rid of free speech I don't agree with".  You only like democracy when your side wins elections.

Where did he do this?

[Habbaku]

Nevermind.  Just had to read further.   

[mongers]

Don't forget vain. Obama was so vain, couldn't stop talking about himself. That was such a big problem. Good thing the next White House will be the epitome of restraint and selflessness.

He hasn't said/tweeted anything stupid today, has he?

He's just been threatening companies this morning, that's all.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

I spoke too soon. 

[KRonn]

As Obama was running for office he said he'd talk to anyone and I tended to agree, with some reservations perhaps. All dem supporters would say how it was great to talk and that it never hurts to talk to anyone, and of course the media breathlessly agreed. But now, Trump just takes a call from a Taiwanese president who is head of the only democracy in China and he's dumb, foolish and wrong. The media breathlessly rushes to complain of horror! Lol.      Politics as usual, media as usual.

Besides, China has been running all over the US and the pacific, creating islands to claim territory. They've done little or nothing to curb N. Korea's nuke program. So maybe this is a way to leverage China a bit more, or to give them pause. Or maybe it was just a phone call from Taiwan's president to congratulate and no sign of a policy shift.

[grumbler]

As Obama was running for office he said he'd talk to anyone and I tended to agree, with some reservations perhaps. All dem supporters would say how it was great to talk and that it never hurts to talk to anyone, and of course the media breathlessly agreed. But now, Trump just takes a call from a Taiwanese president who is head of the only democracy in China and he's dumb, foolish and wrong. The media breathlessly rushes to complain of horror! Lol.      Politics as usual, media as usual.

Besides, China has been running all over the US and the pacific, creating islands to claim territory. They've done little or nothing to curb N. Korea's nuke program. So maybe this is a way to leverage China a bit more, or to give them pause. Or maybe it was just a phone call from Taiwan's president to congratulate and no sign of a policy shift.

I think the last point is likeliest the correct evaluation, but I agree with you that the shock and horror over Trump taking the call is largely just partisanship.  Trump is providing enough real justifications for shock and horror; no sense making others up.

[CountDeMoney]

It unnecessarily complicates something that did not warrant becoming more complicated than it already is--especially when there's no plan behind it, let alone any intelligence. 

But hey, enough with the partisanship, right? Let's take the single most important internal political issue and primary security concern of our most powerful adversary in the region, and drag a big ol' gold-gilded dick all over it like it's a pageant contestant, fuck yeah. 

[Syt]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/12/paul-ryan-constitution-trump-232108?cmpid=sf

Paul Ryan: I've discussed Constitution 'extensively' with Trump

House Speaker Paul Ryan and President-elect Donald Trump have discussed the Constitution "extensively" in their almost daily conversations.

In an excerpt of a "60 Minutes" interview to air Sunday, Ryan was asked whether he has conveyed to Trump that being president is not the same as being the CEO of the country and that Congress will have a role in his administration.

"Oh, we've talked about that extensively," Ryan said. "We've talked about the Constitution, Article 1 on the Constitution, the separation of powers. He feels very strongly, actually, that under President Obama's watch, he stripped a lot of power away from the Constitution, away from the legislative branch of government, and we wanna reset the balance of power so that people and the Constitution are rightfully restored."

Trump has repeatedly come under fire for what appears to be a lack of knowledge of the Constitution. The president-elect earlier this week suggested people who burn the American flag — which the Supreme Court affirmed is protected under the First Amendment's freedom of speech — should serve a year in jail or have their citizenship revoked.

He reportedly told House Republicans in a private meeting in July that he backed Article 12 of the Constitution, which doesn't exist, as there are only seven articles.

And later that month, Khizr Khan, the father of slain Muslim-American soldier Humayun Khan, pulled out a pocket-sized Constitution during his Democratic National Convention address and asked Trump, "Have you even read the U.S. Constitution?"

[The Brain]

My Constitution is 18.

[mongers]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/12/paul-ryan-constitution-trump-232108?cmpid=sf

....

Why would a major US businessman need or want to know more about the constitution?

Save perhaps for when they need to direct a stagecoach via it.