What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Admiral Yi]

I was really thinking more of the Nazi who shot up the Synagogue.  How would you stop the Nazis?  Stern letters?  Public debates?

Are you asking me how to stop a guy from shooting up a synagogue, or how to stop the Nazi party from rounding up and gassing Jews?

[Razgovory]

I was really thinking more of the Nazi who shot up the Synagogue.  How would you stop the Nazis?  Stern letters?  Public debates?

Are you asking me how to stop a guy from shooting up a synagogue, or how to stop the Nazi party from rounding up and gassing Jews?

Let's keep it contemporary.  How would you stop Nazis before they strike?

[DGuller]

I just dislike thugs on the other side. They are way more numerous, more violent and have caused many, many, many more casualties than antifa.

Well, there's our difference:  I dislike thugs because they are thugs, and you only dislike them because they are not your thugs.  You and the trumpeters share the same double standards, and differ only in the fine details.  If people are looking for where the problem lies in today's politics, I submit your post as evidence.

The people would be well-advised to keep looking then.  Lack of civility on one side is not equivalent to lack of civility on the other side, one was born in response to the other, and neither side's lack of civility was the cause of anything, but merely a symptom.  The cause is right wing's scorched earth tactics at entrenching political hegemony.

[Admiral Yi]

Let's keep it contemporary.  How would you stop Nazis before they strike?

Put on black clothes and carry garbage can lids?

[Eddie Teach]

I was really thinking more of the Nazi who shot up the Synagogue.  How would you stop the Nazis?  Stern letters?  Public debates?

Are you asking me how to stop a guy from shooting up a synagogue, or how to stop the Nazi party from rounding up and gassing Jews?

Let's keep it contemporary.  How would you stop Nazis before they strike?

That's the rub- until they strike, they're law-abiding citizens with the same rights as you and me.

[The Brain]

That we should sterilize neo-nazis by punching them in the genitals? Yeah sure. That's my opinion. Super realistic. Not a figure of speech or anything.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get me to say. I don't believe in punching first but I also don't believe in turning the other cheek. The Charlotteville volkdeutsch came prepared with weapons and body armor. I was totally fine when the counterprotesters started swinging back, especially since the police were unwilling or ineffective in controlling the marches.

OK so it's a "LOL J/K" thing. I get it.

I also get that many people think that democracy and rule of law are bugs and not features. Which is a position that I don't share, and that I yet mysteriously think should be allowed in society.

[DGuller]

That we should sterilize neo-nazis by punching them in the genitals? Yeah sure. That's my opinion. Super realistic. Not a figure of speech or anything.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get me to say. I don't believe in punching first but I also don't believe in turning the other cheek. The Charlotteville volkdeutsch came prepared with weapons and body armor. I was totally fine when the counterprotesters started swinging back, especially since the police were unwilling or ineffective in controlling the marches.

OK so it's a "LOL J/K" thing. I get it.

I also get that many people think that democracy and rule of law are bugs and not features. Which is a position that I don't share, and that I yet mysteriously think should be allowed in society.

To be devil's advocate, there is such a thing as paradox of tolerance.  That is, the tolerance of intolerance can allow the intolerant to destroy tolerance. 

That doesn't necessarily mean that the people you mentioned should be euthanized, but it does suggest that tolerance is not an algorithmic ideology.  You have to make a judgment call about what level of intolerance should not be tolerated, which is necessarily a gray area with all the related vulnerabilities.

[Eddie Teach]

That call should be made by the law, not the mob.

[Zoupa]

That we should sterilize neo-nazis by punching them in the genitals? Yeah sure. That's my opinion. Super realistic. Not a figure of speech or anything.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get me to say. I don't believe in punching first but I also don't believe in turning the other cheek. The Charlotteville volkdeutsch came prepared with weapons and body armor. I was totally fine when the counterprotesters started swinging back, especially since the police were unwilling or ineffective in controlling the marches.

OK so it's a "LOL J/K" thing. I get it.

I also get that many people think that democracy and rule of law are bugs and not features. Which is a position that I don't share, and that I yet mysteriously think should be allowed in society.

Good for you buddy. Your shining orb of respect and tolerance hovers over the rest of us plebes.

[DGuller]

That call should be made by the law, not the mob.

What if the mob is in charge of the law?

[Solmyr]

Rule of law becomes overrated when the law is actively protecting violent Nazis. For example, here in Finland the police tend to preemptively arrest left-wing protesters while actively protecting (riot gear and all) the much more violent Nazi marchers.

[grumbler]

You and the trumpeters share the same double standards, and differ only in the fine details.

lol sure grumbler sure. Fascists and anti-fascists are the same 

lol  Zoupa, you probably didn't get the whole Judean People's Front/People's Front of Judea joke in Life of Brian.

You sheep can tell the other sheep in the herd apart.  To those of us outside your herd, you all look alike.

[grumbler]

If people were looking for why moderates and centrists tolerated the rise of the Nazis I would submit your post.  This isn't just an off hand snarky comment,  This is a real reason why people tolerated the Nazis.  Ian Kershaw once stated that "The Road to Auschwitz was paved with indifference" and that indifference was bred by people like you making false equivalency arguments.

We have people who openly talk about committing genocide in this country, and as the events of the last few weeks have shown, will actually murder as many people as they can when they get tired of talking about it.  We have people who want to stop them, and finally we have people who equally hostile to both the murderous Nazis and those that try to stop them.

If people were looking for why moderates and centrists tolerated the rise of Stalin I would submit your post.  This isn't just an off hand snarky comment,  This is a real reason why people tolerated Stalin.  Ivan Kershaovich once stated that "The Road to the Gulags was paved with indifference" and that indifference was bred by people like you making false equivalency arguments.

We have people who openly talk about committing genocide in this country, and as the events of the last few weeks have shown, will actually murder as many people as they can when they get tired of talking about it.  We have people who want to stop them, and finally we have people who just want to promote violence and see countering right-wing violence as their excuse.  Stalin and Hitler started as vigilantes, and you want to promote vigilantism.

[jimmy olsen]

For example, here in Finland the police tend to preemptively arrest left-wing protesters while actively protecting (riot gear and all) the much more violent Nazi marchers.

Same here in most places

[grumbler]

Same here in most places

Well, South Korea is going to be sensitive about leftist violence....