The prison food and burkini ban dual thread

[Brazen]

I know a former prison chef, and many inmates say they're Muslim so they can get chicken and/or curry with most meals which is preferable to the alternatives.

Though we seem to have gone off-topic...

[alfred russel]

Unless we're making shit up in order to target certain cultural groups.

We're making shit up in order to target certain cultural groups.

[Razgovory]

There's a social taboo in our society regarding showing pubic hair, for example, but there isn't one about fully clothed women in beaches - heck, that was the social norm not that long ago. Unless we're making shit up in order to target certain cultural groups.

As garbon told me, "settle down".

You get that because you've been running around rather unpleasantlike across a variety of threads.

Was I wrong?

[CountDeMoney]

You've been exceedingly Razzy recently.  Is it the heat?

[Razgovory]

You've been exceedingly Razzy recently.  Is it the heat?

Cat died.  I loved that cat.

[CountDeMoney]

My cat died, too.  So suck it up.

[Razgovory]

My cat died, too.  So suck it up.

I have some people don't like me laying into Marty and Berkut about their intolerance.

[CountDeMoney]

There's a way to do it, and a way not the do it.  You know that.

Busting on Marty shouldn't be more annoying than Marti.

[Valmy]

My cat died, too.  So suck it up.

I have some people don't like me laying into Marty and Berkut about their intolerance.

I just don't like you derailing and destroying conversations for that purpose. And worse using things I actually care alot about as ammunition rather than actually wanting to discuss it.

I like you Raz but you trigger me sometimes. I DEMAND THIS FORUM REMAIN MY SAFE PLACE.

[viper37]

If you have something to say, say it. Don't be a little bitch making insinuations.

You take one isolated incident that happenned over the weekend, one incident were a lot of the locals took the defense of that poor women, to generalize about a policy that is only meant to protect democracy from the encroachment of religion.

At the same time this happenned in the South, in the North, some ultra catholics protesters got evicted by the police from an occupied Church about to be demolished to make room for condos.

Actually social media has been quick to throw up pictures of nuns in their habits at beaches in France. Maybe they were also fined and it simply has never made the news.

Is there a widespread movement spearheaded by catholic integrists aiming at chaning societies from the inside, with violence as well as political means?

[Razgovory]

My cat died, too.  So suck it up.

I have some people don't like me laying into Marty and Berkut about their intolerance.

I just don't like you derailing and destroying conversations for that purpose. And worse using things I actually care alot about as ammunition rather than actually wanting to discuss it.

I like you Raz but you trigger me sometimes. I DEMAND THIS FORUM REMAIN MY SAFE PLACE.

I sent you PM about that apologizing.  The thought occurred to me that I should put a trigger warning in my sig.

[garbon]

If you have something to say, say it. Don't be a little bitch making insinuations.

You take one isolated incident that happenned over the weekend, one incident were a lot of the locals took the defense of that poor women, to generalize about a policy that is only meant to protect democracy from the encroachment of religion.

Sounds like you need to check out the news. Cannes and Nice have specifically banned the burkini.

At the same time this happenned in the South, in the North, some ultra catholics protesters got evicted by the police from an occupied Church about to be demolished to make room for condos.

Ok? Not sure what this shows?

Actually social media has been quick to throw up pictures of nuns in their habits at beaches in France. Maybe they were also fined and it simply has never made the news.

Is there a widespread movement spearheaded by catholic integrists aiming at chaning societies from the inside, with violence as well as political means?

Do French authorities have proof that burkini wearers are doing that? Seems like they are just trying to enjoy a nice day at the beach. It does seem weird though that banning religious dress is only important when it is religious dress that we don't like.

[Razgovory]

If you have something to say, say it. Don't be a little bitch making insinuations.

You take one isolated incident that happenned over the weekend, one incident were a lot of the locals took the defense of that poor women, to generalize about a policy that is only meant to protect democracy from the encroachment of religion.

At the same time this happenned in the South, in the North, some ultra catholics protesters got evicted by the police from an occupied Church about to be demolished to make room for condos.

Actually social media has been quick to throw up pictures of nuns in their habits at beaches in France. Maybe they were also fined and it simply has never made the news.

Is there a widespread movement spearheaded by catholic integrists aiming at chaning societies from the inside, with violence as well as political means?

I don't see government's role as to protect you from the "encroachment of religion".  Government should be neutral toward religion, though accommodating to the needs of it's citizens.  There are cases when the government has to get involved in religion (for instance army chaplains), and when they do they should be fair and equal. 

[viper37]

Sounds like you need to check out the news. Cannes and Nice have specifically banned the burkini.

It's against the law, and it's been upheld by the tribunals, but it has nothing to do with the images you posted.  And it's a pretty damn good law.  I just wish more countries would imitate France, we'd have less problems with militant islam by now.

This was about a woman wearing a simple weil at the beach and being harassed by overzealous cops.

Ok? Not sure what this shows?

that secularism concerns all religions.

Do French authorities have proof that burkini wearers are doing that? Seems like they are just trying to enjoy a nice day at the beach. It does seem weird though that banning religious dress is only important when it is religious dress that we don't like.

It's a religious symbol, one that is imposed by muslim integrists.  Women not wearing these clothes are considered to be without honor and deserving of punishment, according to these associations.  As such, it's a good thing that you don't give them any inch to grow.  You could look at the propaganda from Collectif contre l'islamophobie en France, or any such institution in Canada that talks of islamophobia.  They're the first ones to invite radical imams to preach their hatred of occidental freedoms over here.

Religion is private, just like sex.  You'll be sanctionned if you have sex in public, and religion should be just the same.  Keep your Faith at home or in a specific building with other consenting people.  There are actually people who don't care about that stuff and want to live free.  And we deserve respect too.

[Malthus]

Religion is private, just like sex.  You'll be sanctionned if you have sex in public, and religion should be just the same.  Keep your Faith at home or in a specific building with other consenting people.  There are actually people who don't care about that stuff and want to live free.  And we deserve respect too.

There is almost always a problem when "freedom" is defined as "my freedom to be free of having to put up with you being all 'in my face' about your identity".