Mass killing in Orlando gay nightclub

[Jaron]

Trump isn't going to win. Sorry.

[Martinus]

Transgender Person Stabbed By Alleged 'Islamic State' Supporters In Belgium

A transgender Tunisian migrant in Belgium was stabbed by a pair of men, also from Tunisia, who claimed to be members of Islamic State.
On Saturday in the Brussels suburb of Etterbeek, a transgender migrant from Tunisia was reportedly stabbed in the street. The transgender person, known as Sharky, was brutally beaten by his attackers, stabbed several times in the abdomen and was later hospitalised for his injuries, reports HLN.be.

The victim had faced similar persecution in Tunisia where he claims to have been attacked by radical Islamists and men who pledged allegiance to Islamic State in North Africa. The two men who carried out the attack told Sharky that they were fighters of Islamic State and the incident came after repeated threats from other members of the group online.

Sharky told Belgian media of his experiences dealing with Islamist threats in Belgium saying: "They were the same people as in Tunisia. They told me that they are only awaiting an official command to behead me. I fear greatly for my life." The victim added: "I want to officially change my name and seek asylum in another country, where I am not threatened. These people followed me all the time in Tunisia."

The victim explained how the Islamic State members had first harassed him online before the threats turned into an almost deadly assault. "It started on social media. At first I tried to not take the threats seriously, even though they made it clear that they were members of Islamic State. They said they would kill me in the name of God and would make an example out of me to young people who do not respect religious law."

According to the Centre for Equal Opportunities and Opposition to Racism Unia, Sharky had reached out to them over the online harassment long before the attack. They confirmed the acts of aggression dated to this weekend, and stated that: "The victim has been threatened on his Facebook profile and physical aggression was already there."

Police in the area have confirmed that they are currently looking for suspects in the case but so far no one has been arrested. The local prosecutor has told the press that while they could confirm the details of the attack, the motivation was still in question.

The attack comes on the heels of both the mass shooting at the gay nightclub Pulse in Orlando that left 49 dead, and the fatal stabbing of a police officer and his wife in France, both of which Islamic State claimed responsibility via its media arm Amaq Agency.

Attacks against homosexuals and transsexuals, as was the case in Dortmund earlier this year, by Islamic State and other radical Islamists have become more and more common in European cities and asylum homes. Some cities and local governments are considering separating Muslims from homosexuals and others in their asylum homes for the safety of the latter.

Maybe let's name this a "Ramadan Jihad megathread"? It would make it easier for apologist cucks to just make a blanket apology for all Muslim violence in one place, instead of repeating the same stupid points whenever there is a new attack each day?

[dps]

The evidence is pretty overwhelming that most immigrants will assimilate as quickly as we let them.

Oh for fuck sake. Yeah and France has not had a non-Nazi aided ethnic cleansing in a few centuries. We are talking shit here.

I am the guy who wanted to bring all those Syrians here. I know they would be overweight suburbanite slobs in no time.

I was mostly just yanking your chain a bit.  But I don't think that there's any doubt that we have historically made it difficult at different time for different groups to assimilate, and that African-Americans and Native Americans have gotten the shortest end of that stick.  But if we're talking about current policies, I think ours are clearly superior to Europe's in regards to minorities.  In particular with regards to immigrants, a lot of European countries make it very difficult if not impossible for immigrants to become citizens.  While I'm not an expert on European naturalization laws, in fairness to Zoupa, from what I do know, France isn't as bad as some other European nations in that regard, though I may be mistaken about it.

[garbon]

I don't understand. Why, Martinus, aren't you up in arms about the following? All of which are shootings or stabbings that have occurred since Friday.

http://pilotonline.com/news/nation-world/national/year-old-girl-killed-in-shooting-in-oakland-california/article_6703ce93-ca2c-5d44-994e-1ea9392c17d2.html

16-year-old girl killed in shooting in Oakland, California

Police in Oakland, California, say a 16-year-old girl has died after being shot in the city's downtown area, where another three people were wounded.

The number of people shot fluctuated throughout Tuesday evening. Oakland police initially said five people had been shot. The department then corrected the information to six people wounded, and finally said a total of four people had been shot, including a teenage girl who died at a hospital.

Police say the other people shot are in stable condition. They range in age from mid-teens to early twenties.

The department says the shooting happened during a vigil for someone drowned last year in Salinas, California.

It's unclear if the shooting is connected to the memorial gathering, which was about two blocks away from the shooting.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports the broad-daylight shooting sent people ducking for cover.

Mason Stone tells the newspaper people were running "every which way."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/15/one-80-year-old-shoots-another-in-cemetery-then-dies-in-police-gun-battle

One 80-year-old shoots another in cemetery, then dies in police gun battle

An 80-year-old man killed an 81-year-old man in a cemetery, then led police on a car chase before officers fatally shot him, Rhode Island authorities have said.

John Cloud of Kingston, Massachusetts, and Edward Acquisto of Tiverton arranged to meet on Monday evening in a Tiverton cemetery, where Acquisto was known to go to read his Bible, Tiverton Police Chief Tom Blakey said at a news conference.

Acquisto then shot Cloud to death, he said.

"This was not a random act. The victim and the suspect knew each other," Blakey said.

Police were still investigating how the men knew each other and the motive for the shooting.

Reports of the shooting came in shortly before 7 p.m.

"There were people visiting graves in the cemetery, visiting loved ones' gravesites, and they heard the commotion, heard the gunshots," Blakey said.

After the shooting, Acquisto drove into neighboring Fall River, Massachusetts. Officers from that city spotted his vehicle and followed him back into Tiverton, where they chased him into a residential neighborhood.

He then stopped on a dead end, where he shot at officers, police said. Two Fall River officers and one Tiverton officer returned fire, killing him.

Acquisto had a criminal history, including pleading no contest to manslaughter in 1982 and being found guilty of sexual assault in 1981, according to court records.

All three officers were placed on administrative leave and Rhode Island State Police were investigating the shooting, standard practice in such cases.

http://katu.com/news/local/police-say-stabbing-in-gresham-park-marijuana-related

A teenage boy was stabbed during a fight in Red Sunset Park on Tuesday, and according to witnesses the victim was a 17-year-old.

Police were called to the park at about 6:20 p.m.

Gresham police said the victim was seriously injured from two stab wounds. He was taken to the hospital in critical condition. They said the teen is expected to survive.

Leslie, who lives near the park, asked us not to use her last name for her safety. She says she heard a commotion and looked out from her patio deck to see a group of teens fighting.

"I walked onto my back patio and the guy was laying on the ground and two gentlemen were stomping at his face," she said.

Leslie says she ran over and yelled at the teens, who then ran away.

"Saw that there was a stab wound, and I immediately applied pressure and just told him to keep talking to me," the mother of four told KATU's Chris Liedle. "His eyes were very, very swollen."

Meanwhile, another neighbor heard the fight and walked over. She says the victim's girlfriend was hiding in the bushes and mouthed for her to call police.

"I walked up and saw the victim laying in the grass with the stab wound, and a gun laying near him," the neighbor said.

Police said they believe the stabbing was related to a marijuana deal.

They said they found a handgun at the scene, but it doesn't appear it was used.

Police are looking for four suspects ranging in age from 15 to 17 years old who fled the park on foot.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/suspects-fatal-stabbing-construction-worker-linked-another-crime-sf/

Suspects in fatal stabbing of construction worker linked to another crime in SF

Two suspects arrested in connection with the fatal stabbing of a construction worker in San Francisco's South of Market neighborhood Friday morning have also been charged in connection with a second attack that occurred last month, prosecutors confirmed Tuesday.

Lizette Maria Cauich, 23, and Oscar Mendez, 43, are set to be arraigned Tuesday afternoon in San Francisco Superior Court on multiple felony charges.

Cauich and Mendez, both Los Angeles residents, were arrested Friday in connection with the fatal stabbing of Mitzi Campbell, 58, according to police.

Campbell, a San Francisco resident, was working at a construction site on Shipley Street, an alley between Harrison and Folsom streets, on Friday morning when she had an argument with a man and a woman there, police said.

She escorted the pair away from the site, but when she didn't come back right away, her co-workers went looking for her around 9:30 a.m. and found her stabbed, police said.

The co-workers saw the man and woman, later identified as Mendez and Cauich, walking away and tried to stop them. They followed them to the area of Fifth and Folsom Streets, where officers arrived and arrested them.

Campbell was taken to a hospital but died there shortly afterward.

Since their arrest, Cauich and Mendez have been linked to a previous stabbing that occurred in the Tenderloin around 1:30 p.m. on May 29.

Police said that stabbing occurred in the area of Eddy and Taylor streets after the suspects, described as a 23-year-old woman and a man of unspecified age, asked the male victim to use a portable toilet located on a lot there.

When the victim refused, the suspects allegedly stabbed him in the upper torso with a knife, causing life-threatening injuries.

According to a statement issued by Mayor Ed Lee on Friday, Campbell was a 2013 graduate of San Francisco's CityBuild construction job training program and a member of Laborers Local 261.

Cauich faces charges including murder, attempted murder, mayhem, assault with force likely to commit great bodily injury and battery with serious bodily injury, according to jail records.

Mendez is charged with attempted murder, mayhem, assault with force likely to cause great bodily injury, battery with serious injury, carrying a dirk and dagger, possession of a controlled substance, receiving or buying stolen property and giving false information to a police officer, as well as two previous felony warrants.

Both are currently being held without bail.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/homicide-shooting-overnight/

Tuesday morning homicide preceded by separate shooting and stabbing

A man was shot and killed in the Mission District early Tuesday morning, according to police.

The shooting happened near the intersection of Shotwell and 20th streets just after 4:05 a.m.

The victim, who was taken to a nearby hospital, but died from his wounds.

The killing marks The City's 23rd homicide of 2016.

The Mission slaying was not the only violence so far this week in San Francisco.

A 19-year-old woman was hit by stray gunshots at 9:40 p.m. Monday in the Western Addition near Buchanan and Hayes streets.

The woman heard gunshots and started to run, then realized she had been hit.

The victim was hit in the thigh and taken to a hospital and is expected to survive.

A third incident of violence — a stabbing — happened in Visitacion valley.

A 32-year-old woman was stabbed in the abdomen after trying to break up a fight early Monday morning.

The woman was in the 2200 block of Bayshore Boulevard when she was two woman in their 20s who were fighting. When one of them pulled out a knife, the victim stepped in and was stabbed.

She was taken to the hospital for her wound and is expected to survive.

In fact, many of those have happened in SF(/Bay Area)!

[Martinus]

Let's just acknowledge Europe is not very good at trying to assimilate immigrants.

There is some wisdom in trying to improve if you are not very good at something - but if you try and fail for several decades, and still cannot learn how to do it properly, then the sensible solution is to stop trying - and just stop having immigrants.

Otherwise, it's like being a man in his 40s still trying to become a professional soccer player or a rock star - you just come across as laughable.

[CountDeMoney]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what we fight with:

He told Van Susteren, "As a Muslim I object to Hillary Clinton. I don't believe women should be the president of a nation."

derspiess and most of the Republican Party?

[CountDeMoney]

I don't understand. Why, Martinus, aren't you up in arms about the following? All of which are shootings or stabbings that have occurred since Friday.

You forgot this one:

New York man randomly slit the throat of a shopper in the produce aisle at ShopRite, police say
Washington Post
June 13, 2016

The victim was perusing the produce aisle mid-morning on Saturday in a ShopRite grocery store in New Windsor, N.Y., about 60 miles north of New York City.

Behind him, a quiet assailant calmly approached.

He brandished a folding box cutter knife in his hand, reported the Times Herald-Record, and without warning or struggle, he slit the victim's throat.

Then as quietly as he came, the assailant disappeared, camouflaged amid the crowds of weekend shoppers. He remained there for 45 minutes, according to police, while medics rushed the unconscious, bleeding victim to a nearby hospital where he died and while authorities searched for his attacker.

After reviewing surveillance footage and identifying the man with the knife, the New Windsor Police Department and store officials at ShopRite found the assailant in the crowd.

Police identified him as Andrew Goodenough, a 35-year-old resident of Highland Falls, another small town nestled along the the Hudson River, and charged him with second-degree murder.

As details unfolded about the grisly crime that wreaked havoc inside a popular area grocery store, it was actually the lack of information that seemed most haunting. There was no altercation before the stabbing, officials told CBS New York, and there was no apparent connection between the two men.

Police described the stabbing as a random attack amid a sea of 250 shoppers, reported the Herald-Record.

Police were waiting to release the victim's name until they notified his family. They gave only his age, 35.

On social media, frequent shoppers at the supermarket expressed their shock and horror. "What the hell?!?!?" one woman wrote on Facebook. "What's wrong with this world," another person tweeted. "I'm not leaving my house anymore," wrote another.

A name for Goodenough's attorney wasn't immediately available, reported the Associated Press, but neighbors described the man to CBS New York as troubled and "unstable."

According to the Herald-Record, Goodenough had never before been charged with a crime, but he was known to police. On multiple occasions in the past, officers had asked him to leave areas around town after he acted suspiciously.

ShopRite released a statement to customers after the bloody crime, reported CBS New York:

    "We can confirm that an unfortunate incident took place this morning at our store. The store will remain closed for the rest of the day while police conduct a thorough investigation. While we can't discuss the ongoing investigation, we are working with the police and reaching out to all of our associates. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all those involved."

In the produce aisle.  Just...dead.

[Duque de Bragança]

Let's just acknowledge Europe is not very good at trying to assimilate low-skilled/illiterate muslim immigrants.

There is some wisdom in trying to improve if you are not very good at something - but if you try and fail for several decades, and still cannot learn how to do it properly, then the sensible solution is to stop trying - and just stop having immigrants.

Otherwise, it's like being a man in his 40s still trying to become a professional soccer player or a rock star - you just come across as laughable.

Way to tar with the same brush Martinus.   
Assimilation would also work better without self-loathing.

[celedhring]

The evidence is pretty overwhelming that most immigrants will assimilate as quickly as we let them.

Oh for fuck sake. Yeah and France has not had a non-Nazi aided ethnic cleansing in a few centuries. We are talking shit here.

I am the guy who wanted to bring all those Syrians here. I know they would be overweight suburbanite slobs in no time.

I was mostly just yanking your chain a bit.  But I don't think that there's any doubt that we have historically made it difficult at different time for different groups to assimilate, and that African-Americans and Native Americans have gotten the shortest end of that stick.  But if we're talking about current policies, I think ours are clearly superior to Europe's in regards to minorities.  In particular with regards to immigrants, a lot of European countries make it very difficult if not impossible for immigrants to become citizens.  While I'm not an expert on European naturalization laws, in fairness to Zoupa, from what I do know, France isn't as bad as some other European nations in that regard, though I may be mistaken about it.

In Spain it's piss easy to become a national if you're from a former colony, which is the reason we have such a big latin-american immigration. However, for the case at hand, say mr. Muslim from Muslimia:

- 10 years of residence.
- Cut down to 5 years if you enjoy refugee status.
- Cut down to 1 year if you're married to a Spanish national.

Children of immigrants, born in Spanish soil, can become Spanish nationals after 1 year of residence. Which means that the vast majority of second generation immigrants are Spanish citizens.

Doesn't look too bad to me.

[Martinus]

I think it is also shorter than 10 years if you own real estate - I know because D. and I were checking this as an option in case Putin invades.

[Berkut]

I think it is also shorter than 10 years if you own real estate - I know because D. and I were checking this as an option in case Putin invades.

After this latest attack, I think Spain should be very careful about letting homicidal radicalized gays into the country.

[dps]

The evidence is pretty overwhelming that most immigrants will assimilate as quickly as we let them.

Oh for fuck sake. Yeah and France has not had a non-Nazi aided ethnic cleansing in a few centuries. We are talking shit here.

I am the guy who wanted to bring all those Syrians here. I know they would be overweight suburbanite slobs in no time.

I was mostly just yanking your chain a bit.  But I don't think that there's any doubt that we have historically made it difficult at different time for different groups to assimilate, and that African-Americans and Native Americans have gotten the shortest end of that stick.  But if we're talking about current policies, I think ours are clearly superior to Europe's in regards to minorities.  In particular with regards to immigrants, a lot of European countries make it very difficult if not impossible for immigrants to become citizens.  While I'm not an expert on European naturalization laws, in fairness to Zoupa, from what I do know, France isn't as bad as some other European nations in that regard, though I may be mistaken about it.

In Spain it's piss easy to become a national if you're from a former colony, which is the reason we have such a big latin-american immigration. However, for the case at hand, say mr. Muslim from Muslimia:

- 10 years of residence.
- Cut down to 5 years if you enjoy refugee status.
- Cut down to 1 year if you're married to a Spanish national.

Children of immigrants, born in Spanish soil, can become Spanish nationals after 1 year of residence. Which means that the vast majority of second generation immigrants are Spanish citizens.

Doesn't look too bad to me.

No, that isn't bad.  My understanding is that it's really tough to become a naturalized citizen of Germany or the UK (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) and wasn't sure how common that was in Europe.

[celedhring]

I think it is also shorter than 10 years if you own real estate - I know because D. and I were checking this as an option in case Putin invades.

IIRC that just gives you a residence permit, and you're a EU citizen already. It's aimed at rich Chinese/Russians/Arabs and the odd yank.

[Martinus]

I think it is also shorter than 10 years if you own real estate - I know because D. and I were checking this as an option in case Putin invades.

IIRC that just gives you a residence permit, and you're a EU citizen already. It's aimed at rich Chinese/Russians/Arabs and the odd yank.

Hmm, I seem to remember that it was 3 years for holding real property if you already had residence permit. But could be wrong.

It could have been for marriage of two non-nationals. I am confused now. 

[Martinus]

Here's an interesting take on why the President using the term "radical Islam" matters:

Tuesday on CNN's "Outfront," CNN contributor David Gergen, a former presidential adviser that served in the Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton administrations, explained why he sides with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on using the term "radical Islam" to describe the terror threat aimed at the United States.

According to Gergen, using such terms provides "clarity," which he likened to Ronald Reagan describing the Soviet Union as the "evil empire."

"Absolute disdain for Donald Trump and everything he represents," Gergen said in describing Obama's speech earlier in the day. "There's a great fear on the president's part that Donald Trump could actually succeed. He'll do everything in his power from prevent that from happening. I must say on the substance, you have to distinguish between two things – and that is the ban on all Muslims trump is calling for, versus using the term radical Islam. On the first, I think the president is doing very well on that issue. I think he's got the upper hand on that issue. A lot of Americans ... don't like the ban."

"They think it was a bad idea. Importantly, high-ranking Republicans very, very important to him right now are opposed to this ban," he continued. "Paul Ryan has made it repeatedly clear and said so again today and Trump doesn't want to face a rebellion before the convention among the Congress. On the second point, radical Islam if I may be permitted a quick story. Back in the early 1980s, President Reagan was trying to decide whether to call the Soviet Union an evil empire. I was among those who urged him not to do that on his staff. I thought it was wrong. I thought it would upset the Soviets. I think in retrospect I was wrong. He used the term. I think it worked well. Tony Dolan who was a speechwriter was the one who persuaded him. He had the better argument and that is rhetorically confronting, telling, having plain-spoken truth about what you're facing helps to clarify and helps to strengthen your hand."