Merkel allows prosecution of German comedian who mocked Turkish president

[garbon]

No, all should be accorded respect when they deserve respect.  The baseline is to respect until they move beyond the pale (that is called being civilized).  If they are beyond the pale and apologize, then they are back to that base state.  If they are an unrepentant idiot or douche, they should be treated like such.

[Norgy]

I love German mentality, by the way. "We have these stupid, likely unconstitutional, obscene laws but we are going to enforce them anyway because we uphold the rule of law."

Sounds like 70 years of denazification haven't really changed their attitudes.

It's more like Germans never do anything in half-measures, whether it's making cars, invading Russia, forcibly displacing themselves with Islam, etc.

I think they perfectly illustrate the difference between rationalism and empiricism. Germans are rationalists, but (unlike, say, the Brits) they are not empiricists. They take a principle and drive it to its "logical" conclusion - the whole "refugees welcome" fiasco is a great example of that. Germans decided they are tolerant now - so they announced they will accept any and all refugees, nuance and empirical evidence be damned.

Which gay rightwinger wrote that?
Because, Marti, you are unable to actually form any coherent argument someone hasn't told you to do. You are an empty shell of a human being. And these days, not a very likeable one.
Good luck with that. I'm kind of reluctantly sad that Languish let you in again, as you basically have nothing to contribute except bile.
Another "yes" vote I regret forever, I guess.

Are you drunk?

No.
I probably should be, though.

[Norgy]

As Mart is a douchebag, any attack is warranted.

Btw, Mart, saying "are you drunk?" to a recovering alcoholic is a douchebag thing to do - just so you know.

Well, his post was hysterical, misplaced and exaggerated, especially as I didn't really say anything that outrageous in the post he quoted. So yeah, it reminded me of the best days of Norgy's drunk-posting.

Incidentally, your reasoning is identity politics at its finest - it doesn't matter what was said and what it means objectively. What matters is that "Mart is a douchebag" and "Norgy is a recovering alcoholic".

Oh, why do I even bother.
If you'd read anything beyond the Cliff Notes of Hume and Kant, we wouldn't even have this discussion.

[Eddie Teach]

Incidentally, your reasoning is identity politics at its finest - it doesn't matter what was said and what it means objectively. What matters is that "Mart is a douchebag" and "Norgy is a recovering alcoholic".

I don't think the categories are really defined in that way, but rather "posters liked" (get free pass) and "posters disliked" (get overreactions).

[PDH]

Despite being a Stanford person you do get it 

[garbon]

Despite being a Stanford person you do get it 

If you prick me do I not bleed cardinal?

[HVC]

I love German mentality, by the way. "We have these stupid, likely unconstitutional, obscene laws but we are going to enforce them anyway because we uphold the rule of law."

Sounds like 70 years of denazification haven't really changed their attitudes.

It's more like Germans never do anything in half-measures, whether it's making cars, invading Russia, forcibly displacing themselves with Islam, etc.

I think they perfectly illustrate the difference between rationalism and empiricism. Germans are rationalists, but (unlike, say, the Brits) they are not empiricists. They take a principle and drive it to its "logical" conclusion - the whole "refugees welcome" fiasco is a great example of that. Germans decided they are tolerant now - so they announced they will accept any and all refugees, nuance and empirical evidence be damned.

Which gay rightwinger wrote that?
Because, Marti, you are unable to actually form any coherent argument someone hasn't told you to do. You are an empty shell of a human being. And these days, not a very likeable one.
Good luck with that. I'm kind of reluctantly sad that Languish let you in again, as you basically have nothing to contribute except bile.
Another "yes" vote I regret forever, I guess.

You can blame Jacob. once again, your faith in a left wing politician has failed you

[Martinus]

Seriously, Norgy, I have been thinking about this and you were mean. So, I cant suddenly experiment with right wing ideas without you going all nasty on my ass? You know very well that in few months I will swing back, but I will still be hurt.

Edit: And I it was Stephen Fry whom I heard the empiricist vs. rationalist argument from, and he might be gay but he is not a right winger. 

[Admiral Yi]

Do you really think you're in a position to complain about people being mean?

[Razgovory]

Edit: And I it was Stephen Fry whom I heard the empiricist vs. rationalist argument from, and he might be gay but he is not a right winger. 

Oh, I was going to give you credit for distinguishing between empiricism and rationalism.  Few people do that anymore.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The Spectator magazine is holding an insult Erdogan contest :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36086563

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/introducing-the-president-erdogan-offensive-poetry-competition/

I don't think much of Murray's initial effort, but Erdogan is a tricky word in some ways, perhaps competitors will have more success with Tayyip.

[Martinus]

The Spectator magazine is holding an insult Erdogan contest :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36086563

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/introducing-the-president-erdogan-offensive-poetry-competition/

I don't think much of Murray's initial effort, but Erdogan is a tricky word in some ways, perhaps competitors will have more success with Tayyip.

Excellent reasoning in this blog. And kudos to the Brits. You may have your faults, but you are probably the most liberally minded nation in Europe.

[Eddie Teach]

Creepy how much their government watches them though.

[Zanza]

John Oliver had a piece on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJtrCcuv6o

[garbon]

John Oliver had a piece on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJtrCcuv6o

Ok?